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Topic Dog Boards / Visitors Questions / giant flatcoats
- By Guest [gb] Date 29.03.04 17:51 UTC
is it me or do flatcoated retriever males seem to be soooo tall!!
my friends flattie  (bob) marley is 66cm
Mine is 68cm!!!

i love them this size, but surely its not within breed standard!??

Susie Smith
- By ice_queen Date 29.03.04 18:15 UTC
Preferred height: dogs: 58-61 cms (23-24 ins); bitches: 56-58 cms (22-23 ins). Preferred weight in hard condition: dogs: 27-36 kgs (60-80 lbs); bitches: 25-32 kgs (55-70 lbs).

Thats taken from the KC breed standerd.  So yes you and your friends dogs are abit big for the standerd but its not uncommon to have a couple of larger dogs  (or smaller ones) in a brred, you just wouldn't be able to show him as it is a fault, thats can't be disguised!

Rox
- By Polly [gb] Date 29.03.04 20:27 UTC
Ice Queen has the standard height as being 23-24 inches for dogs and 22-23 for bitches. The present standard is maximum height for dogs 24 inches and bitches 22.

WhenI first started in flatcoats many years ago, the breed height standard was rather different from today. The height standard was for an ideal height for dogs of  24.5 inches at the shoulder and bitches 22.5 inches with judges allowing a two inch leeway either side. Dr. Laughton said that flatcoats varied in size according to the area they were working. Flatcoats both dogs and especially bitches were bigger back then. I first saw flatcoats in 1974 where I was living in Norfolk. Then I became interested in the breed although never owned a pedigree flatcoat until later, I remember seeing them at the CLA game fair, all big working dogs.
I have been told by a very respected judge of the breed that she and Pat Chapman measured Shargleam Blackcap and he was well over the current standard, at 25.75 inches! The AKC standard, for the breed height, is much closer to the standard previously used in this country than the one we now use.
Some breeders still breed the larger version, and I know one who will always say, "If you have an ............. You will have a big dog".
- By liberty Date 29.03.04 20:39 UTC
I attempted to measure Libby, and reckon she's about 25" at the shoulder approx. However even as a pup, her breeder referred to her as 'The big Girl' :D :D
Her breeder was aware that we in all probability were not going to show her (we never have....just as well really :)  ), but we've got a crackin' girl, and I wouldn't swop her for anything :D
- By ice_queen Date 29.03.04 20:41 UTC
I just took the measurements from the KC breed standard off the web!

Rox
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