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By Staffie lover
Date 05.02.04 01:53 UTC
Hi all
please can any one help
me dog was put out to stud 15 weeks ago
a healthy litter of 8 were born 6 weeks ago :D
at the time of the matting i asked for pick of the litter which was agreed :D
i signed the KC papers and the bitch went home
i got a phone call today saying that the puppies might not be able to have there papers as this was a back to back breeding (which i did not know about :( ).
The pup that iam having is being sold to a friend that want to show her, so she needs papers.
my question is will the kc let the owner of the bitch register the pup's??
i know a few years ago they stopped it but i thought that they have changed it back am i right (only breeders with more than 5 litter's a year can not)?
the owner of the bitch is going to phone the kc but i want to know so i can let me friend know whats going to happen
thank you
By raffystaffy
Date 05.02.04 02:11 UTC
hello forgive me here for being a tad silly but is back to back mean a litter straight after a litter???
By Staffie lover
Date 05.02.04 03:43 UTC
HI Raffystaffy
yeah it does sad i know :(, if i had know this before i would not of let her use me boy

Hi if the bitches owner is a licenced breeder then no the puppies wont be able to be registered. If however they aren't then the KC will register puppies from a back to back mating.GIllian
By Staffie lover
Date 05.02.04 03:49 UTC
HI Gillian
thank you for getting back to me,
its sad to think that there is a litter only 7 months older than this litter and the KC will still register them :(
but i can now tell me friend that she can still have her puppy :D
i would have told me friend to go to a diffrent litter all together but the colour that she has wanted for so long is in this litter and she has already started to bond with this litter girl
By Poodlebabe
Date 05.02.04 08:02 UTC
I suppose that's a lesson people with stud dogs should learn. Ask the bitch owners when the bitch last had a litter. Makes you wonder why the litter was bred now :(
Jesse
By kazz
Date 05.02.04 08:27 UTC
Could you as a "stud dog owner" check with the kennel club yourself? to see when a bitch last had a litter?
Karen
By Staffie lover
Date 05.02.04 21:48 UTC
HI Jesse
i was told that the bitch has never had a litter before, this was her first one, and she was only just gone 2 so i thought that it was her first time. she didn't look like she had, had puppies before so i did not think to cheek up.

The rule was rescinded for non commercial breeders (those not requiring a breeders license), so should be no trouble pups being registered.
Breeding on succeeding seasons is certainly a questionalbe practice, unless it is a bitch that has long inter season intervals (like 10 months in Welsh Springers and other breeds being common) or a bitch has had a season im between , but has seasons every four or five months, a small litter of 1 or two might also be a good reason if bitch is getting on in age, otherwise I would still wait another season.
By Jackie H
Date 05.02.04 11:53 UTC
Have heard of vets advising another litter when only one or two pups survive, don't know why but guess they must be a reason.
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