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Topic Other Boards / Foo / kids and nits
- By co28uk [gb] Date 22.01.04 17:31 UTC
Wouldn't it be nice if we could give the kids a dab on the neck or a tablet once a month to keep nits away, afterall it works for dogs and cats :-D
Bad afternoon clean kisd Monday two days later we have nits againnnnn!!!!
Cordelia
- By lel [gb] Date 22.01.04 17:47 UTC
Its annoying when you treat your own only for someone not to bother treating their children and you are back to square one again :(
Glad mine are older now
- By craigles [gb] Date 22.01.04 17:48 UTC
Cordelia I totally sympathise with you, my daughter Hannah had them for about six months, this was about 18 months ago.  I was tearing my own hair out, I used everything have you tried just ordinary cheap conditioner and combing it out then conditioning again and leaving it in till morning, this worked for me in the end.  Touch wood she hasn't had them since but those months were horrid.
- By ice_queen Date 22.01.04 17:51 UTC
why is it cheepest is mostly the best!!!

Rox
- By co28uk [gb] Date 22.01.04 18:13 UTC
been there and done the conditioner thing. Trouble is i have 3 girls all with long hair ages 4 (at nursery) 8 and 10, youngest two have blonde hair so very easy to spot the little blitters but the 10 yr old has dark brown hair so it is a nightmare. So if still no joy by friday out comes Suleo M and see what happens Monday.

Cordelia
- By nickie [gb] Date 22.01.04 19:08 UTC
First time my daughter got nits we checked the whole family guess who was the only other person to get them yep me I nearly cried *shudders* had to get my hubby and mother-in-law to delouse me and my daughter 15 times later bought one of those electric combs and I use tea-tree shampoo once a week and we've never had them since but the rest of the school has lol.

Nickie.
- By Donnax [gb] Date 22.01.04 19:20 UTC
My daughter had nits on and off all thoughout junior school... i found as soon as i got rid of hers she got them back again.
This was obviously due to parents not treating their kids! GRRRR!
I found that coming her hair through with conditioner and then spraying it with tea tree oil n water worked best

Donna and charliex
- By LindyLou [gb] Date 22.01.04 19:24 UTC
I can sympathise as my daughter came home with them at Christmas time (again).

She got a row from me though. She'd stopped using the tea-tree shampoo and conditioner. I've hidden all other shampoos so she has no excuse now. :D
- By cup cake [gb] Date 22.01.04 21:09 UTC
hi no how you all feel,my daughter has had them.i cant understand how some parents can just ignore the fact that there kids have them and still send them to school ,bring back the nit nurse x
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 22.01.04 21:26 UTC
How long have the kids been back at school? In our case they were infested again within 3 days. Just to wind you all up, it remains an issue at secondary school especially once they get partners and lock heads...The only way to control it is to check heads every week as part of the hair washing routine, just think of it as the human version of your dogs daily check/grooming. I just found out dogs can get lice so now Im checking 6 humans and one dog every week!:D
- By cup cake [gb] Date 22.01.04 21:32 UTC
maybe we should keep the kids at home then we would be nit free ,no not a good idea i need the peace.can nits of children live on a dog x
- By Wishfairy [gb] Date 22.01.04 21:48 UTC
Never heard of it but I bath all mine (kids and dogs) with tea tree and it seems to keep the wee beggers away :)

Tesco's do an own brand one thats quite cheap.
- By jessieann [gb] Date 22.01.04 21:57 UTC
So tea tree works on dogs too!  Had so many probs with nits.  step daughter kept bringing them, no slagging off her mum(much as I'd like to) cos her mum treid allsorts, sdaughter pass them on to my girl, get rid off and next time  or so back again, so kept getting passed back and to.  I used tea tree shampoo on all kids and 'dee flea' em everyday.  Someone mentioned a while ago about cider vinegar?  Can we have the recipe?
All seems clear at the moment but will it last?  I'm paranoid about myself too.
kids eh?
- By Carla Date 22.01.04 22:03 UTC
Moll has long blonde hair, and I make her wash and condition it every day - she hasn't had them for years - apparently they can't cling onto conditioned hair. I also make sure its tied up adn she doesn't put her head near anyone elses :) Zack has a grade 4 on the top and a 2 at the back and that seems to keep them away from him ;)
- By Wishfairy [gb] Date 22.01.04 22:19 UTC
Ade is really paranoid about them - he's very hairy and says if they touch him they'll think they've died and gone to heaven (as they migrate all over him :eek: )
- By theemx [gb] Date 23.01.04 00:59 UTC
urghhhhhh nits!

Im now an EXPERT on nits, i have had them 3 times in the last 6 months....lets not go into why ;)

Asda do a nit spray stuff, tea tree oil and lavender stuff you spray it on when your hair is wet and it keeps them at bay.

To get rid, comb and comb and comb, with conditioner in, and preferably use a tea tree shampoo, and just keep combing.

Squash every one you find, AND the eggs, in case one should make an escape back to the hair....

Em
- By dollface Date 23.01.04 03:38 UTC
My children had them once but they came and gone, they got them from the head phones on the computers....I also read that 2 in 1 shampoo and conditioner work and the little Bu****s have trouble holding on :D...No they can't live on dog and they don't jump either, they also can't swim and will drown...Found these sites thought you might find it interesting :)

headlice
FAQ
Info
for kids
- By co28uk [gb] Date 23.01.04 07:35 UTC
perhaps we should all shave our girls and invest in wigs lol
my two blondes are clean touch would my eldest one is clean but if i find and tonight when the get bak ooo i will be sooo mad :-)
Perhaps we should gang up on the sceintist to get off the bums and invent a pill :-D in my dreams lol

Cordelia
- By eddie [gb] Date 23.01.04 10:25 UTC
Working in a school I see this all the time.  There is a girl in my class today with bunches in.  Her parting is a walking zo..not just one or 2 there is hundreds and there huge.  As a teacher all we can do is give the parents a leaflet about nits.  IMO we sould have the nitty nurse back!
- By co28uk [gb] Date 23.01.04 10:28 UTC
ewwwww that made me cringe goose bumps and making me itch. i can honestly say yes bring the nurse back by why on earth do some parents let there kids get so bad the must see them scratching the porr heads.
Parents need more educating aswell to sort the things out.

Cordelia
- By jazzywoo Date 23.01.04 11:06 UTC
I have found the best thing is tea tree conditioner loads of it combed through and if you can stand it put a towel on your head and sleep in it.  Another good one is polytar liquid .  Talking of the nit nurse brings back awful memories for me I used to have long blonde hair that i could sit on and nitty nora would come and make a right mess of my bunchies then mum used to go mad at me .  Don't know if nora was the ladies name by the way but she has been called it for years :D

Michelle :)
- By Alexanders [gb] Date 24.01.04 00:04 UTC
This is the popular topic of conversation in my kids school at the moment.  My youngest  has come home with them this week (2nd time since Xmas).  I have been combing all my boys heads with conditioner (although other two seem clear at the moment).  I am angry because all I keep being told is that the school can't do anything (even though they know who has got them) as it infringes personal rights or something!  I have told my sons teacher that if he keeps getting them I will keep him off school (hes only 5).  I feel its an infringement of his rights to have to go to school and will probably catch something!  Also, the school has put out a letter saying that alot of the treatments have side effects.  How can it be right that our children have to be subjected to this because someone else is just too lazy or unconcerned to treat their kids!

Fiona
- By Paula [gb] Date 25.01.04 14:36 UTC
The year before last my boys kept getting nits back - I'd send them in on Monday morning all clear and by Tuesday night they'd be back, grrrr.  I tried everything, electric zappers, lotions (though there were only 2 different types we could use as the boys have asthma), conditioners, but eventually, the nits became resistant to the stuff!!  Eventually, I found 'Nice and Clear', a natural remedy at Boots, with Tea tree oil and Neem oil in it, and touch wood, we've never had them since.  It doesn't need to be rinsed out like the other stuff (which is a godsend to people like my sister, who has 2 girls with long, thick hair and doesn't want to send them to school with wet hair).  You just put it on and comb through with a nit comb on the 1st, 3rd, 7th and 10th days, and then just use it like a conditioner every once in a while.
Thought it might be useful to know.
Paula
- By mygirl [gb] Date 25.01.04 16:06 UTC
I read this the other day and thought touch wood, well we are sat here now with Suleo M on our heads and the tea tree shampoo has been binned! :D
- By mason [gb] Date 25.01.04 16:54 UTC
I have 5 children and over the years have tried everything on the market!!  Out of desperation one day, whilst applying frontline to dog I had a brain wave :D  using the spray on frontline, got kids to wash and towel dry their hair then sprayed frontline sparingly and combed through and left to dry naturally. Nobody had headlice for 6 months :D  Now, I know that it is not meant to be sprayed on your children, but in my opinion, a small amount of frontline maybe twice a year has got to be better for them than putting all those "proper treatments" that are full of chemicals also every other week. This is just my opinion, and I am not saying that it is the only answer to the problem but it certainly works for us  :D Sarah
- By Dill [gb] Date 26.01.04 00:31 UTC
CIDER VINEGAR  :D

Someone asked for the CIDER VINEGAR treatment so here it is :D

One jug of warm water + a few table spoons of cider vinegar - use this as the last rinse and dry the hair on cool or allow to dry naturally.

This is really effective, I used this on TrollGirls hair when she was in school (waist length) as the source of all nits was in her class :eek: and they were a daily occurence!! (we all had to be treated on more than one occasion - it was mortifying :rolleyes:)  Once I started this treatment they became a thing of the past :D and the best thing is that its cheap.  I now use it on Little TrollBoy - after the tea tree shampoo and conditioner ;) and so far he hasn't caught them despite the teacher warning me privately that they were "in the class"

Hope this helps

Dill - louse-free so far :)
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 26.01.04 21:02 UTC
Stinkfoot and Minibeast have washed their hair in Dog Flea Repellant shampoo tonight ( I must have been a serial killer in a former life! ) maybe citronella will do the job in lieu of cider vinegar. Thanks for reminding me about the cider vinegar Dill, hows Here Be Dragons BTW?
- By jessieann [gb] Date 26.01.04 22:05 UTC
We have a constant infestation.  Hubs daughter had them ,mine got them, got rid, then s daughter brought them back and so it goes on, hubs ex admittedly did all she could as did we, but so they came.  Hubs cousin, several counties away says their school insists that 'nits come from the home, not school'.  Hmmm Me thinks ours are cominng from one school or another!
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 27.01.04 22:08 UTC
Jessieann, do you know we can get free nit killer from pharmacists in Lothian? You take the evidence of infestation along to the chemist and they give you firstline treatment, you zap the nits twice 7 days apart then check the heads again 3 days later then the chemist assesses whether its a new crop or residue and gives more free treatment accordingly. I havent paid out for lotions for over a year.
- By Dill [gb] Date 26.01.04 22:22 UTC
Here be Dragons are doing fine :) they are even coming to our own town this year as well as doing "the Big Cheese" in Caerphilly (100 thousand expected there :eek: )  they start touring in march and its going to be busy from then on :)  they've done some filming for tv but we don't know when it wil be aired :rolleyes: typical.  We've told TrollGirl to hurry up and make loads of dosh so she can keep us in the style we'd like to be accostomed to :D :D
- By co28uk [gb] Date 27.01.04 17:10 UTC
well gone thorugh the kids hair again today after a clean weekend and what a auprise they are back again.
So if not clean by friday they are all having Suleo M on there hair i have threatened before but this time it will be done.

Cordelia

waiting patiently for nity nora to come back, if your listening please come back :-D
- By DebbieN [gb] Date 28.01.04 21:47 UTC
I have the dreaded nit problem with my eldest son, he has long hair past his shoulders (beckham fan).
He has had them almost constant since he started growing his hair 12months ago. We ahve tryed everything and still keep coming back. I was soooooooooooo tempted last week at the vets to get her to spray him with frontline :0)

Debbie
- By Lea Date 28.01.04 21:50 UTC
I have been informed VODKA works.
You comb onto hair, enough to wet it, and it kills the headlice!!!!!!!!
And, added bonus, you can have a drink while doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Going to try it out next time my kids get them!!!!!!!!
Lea :)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 28.01.04 21:58 UTC
Is gin any good? *Hopefully*
- By Lea Date 28.01.04 21:59 UTC
I asked that one, but havnt had a reply yet!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO
Lea :)
- By hippychick [gb] Date 29.01.04 19:26 UTC
this may sound terrible,but i was that fed up with my girls getting nits, that when the parents were in the yard i stood on the steps and said EXCUSE ME EVERYONE, please will you check your childrens hair as head lice are going around. everybody looked horrified,but what a lot of new parents said,and when i say new parents i mean they had only this their first child at school, asked what do they look like and can i see them how do i get rid of them,etc etc etc,i then went to the school toldthem what i had done and said i am willing to hold a talk to parents if they are interested, they agreed after a few parents came in and backed me up, i then got some small dishes like petri dishes and put some head lice  in the dishes took them into the talk and over 50 parents turned up, i am not a nurse,just a concerned parent, many of the parents were horrified that these beasties were crawling through there kids hairs, we all talked and had a laugh about how we could get rid of them,and many parents agreed that notenough info is given, and that nitty nora should be brought back,
Carol
- By Alexanders [gb] Date 29.01.04 22:30 UTC
My boys school does provide talks and so on, but most people I have spoken to agree that the nit nurse should be brought back.  who is it exactly who decides that it infringes a childs personal liberty if a teacher looks through their hair or sends them home?  Is it the European court or something or what?

Fiona
- By LF [gb] Date 29.01.04 22:39 UTC
Funnily enough, we were talking about the Nit Nurse at work the other day!  At our school she just stood at the front of the class and looked at our heads, but one of my colleagues maintained that at his school they were taken one at a time to a private room.  The rest of us didn't believe him, but what did the Nit Nurse do at CD'ers schools - was it public humiliation or discretion? :D

Lesley

PS I say bring her back too, it can't possibly be a bad thing to have children regularly checked for nits!!!!!
- By Lea Date 29.01.04 22:47 UTC
Discretion. We lined up outside a room, and each went in idividually(I never had nits till I had my kids, then have only had 1 or 2. Put too much gunk on my hair!!!!!!!!) Never knew when anyone had nits, so dont know what happened. This was 22- years ago. I am 26.
Lea :)
- By LF [gb] Date 29.01.04 22:55 UTC
Ha! That might explain it, cos colleague is a good few years younger than me too, so maybe times changed and public humiliation was stopped as a bad thing and discretion introduced :D  I can remember a science teacher making a girl sit in the corner of the science lab well away from the rest of us, cos he had spotted her head was crawling, and he publicly told her to get her parents to sort her out before she infested the whole school :o Poor girl was mortified!

Lesley
- By maglaura [gb] Date 29.01.04 22:59 UTC
we have had a petition at our local schools and we are sending it to the school goveners and the local education authority and the local health authority to have the nit nurses reinstated maybe if all the school did this they might take notice and we could have them back perhaps you could arrange one in your local schools and see if it helps
maggie
- By co28uk [gb] Date 30.01.04 11:35 UTC
We used to line up in the hall then go behind a curtain to be checked and if we had them we were sent home to be delt with.
Trouble is the lotion that was out then used to stink like made and then all the kids knew what you had on you hair.

Cordelia
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 30.01.04 22:07 UTC
Sorry, but its a parents job to check for nits like brushing their teeth or changing nappies. Its a waste of a nurses time. The dentist dosent brush kids teeth for us and we dont need a nurse to check their heads. Those too lazy to do the job have no sense of shame either and wouldnt be galvanised into checking by a nit nurse, theyd just bleat for even more services. Nits have always been a fact of life, get over it.
- By Alexanders [gb] Date 31.01.04 01:33 UTC
the thing is the nit nurse used to actually treat the children's hair as well.  some parents just will not bother and I don't think its right for the children of those who do bother to keep getting reinfected.  It takes long enough for me to go through my three BOYS hair each time, lord knows how long it would take with girls.  I just do not have that time to waste only to get reinfected.  I won't happen, but I think those affected should have their hair treated by the nurse (doesn't even have to be a qualified 'nurse' in the normal sense). They may be a fact of life, but they certainly are not pleasant and the way they made my sons head itch, it must have lessened his concentration in school!

Fiona
- By co28uk [gb] Date 31.01.04 06:26 UTC
Lorelei  do you have children, if so then i think what we are getting at is the fact that there are lots of parents out there that a, do not care that there childs head is crawling b, just do not know what they are looking for or c, need to be educated.
We do not want a nurse to take over what we do for our children but it would be nice to have her back to detect those children that do have them and then educate the parent to deal with it properly and get rid of them.
It is so frustrating when you send your child (in my case 3 girls) to school free of lice you check there hair a couple of days later and bang they have them, you then clear there head and you just go round in circles.
I am sorry that you feel that way but are not bleating the services. Nursing is worse now than it was before and we no longer have nurses in school, but i think even back in the days when we had nity nora she was not a proper nurse i think maggi thatcher would of had a fit if we took nurses to check our kids hair for nits.

Cordelia
- By gsd sam [gb] Date 31.01.04 15:56 UTC
as a parent of 2 myself and being at the same school i would like it if the nit nurse came into school on a regular basis and checked all the kids hairs, as i for one am sick of going through my own kids hair eliminating any nits just so they re-catch them off those few kids whose parents either dont bother or dont know what their doing, it would save alot of kids having hours of de-nitting combing and painful scratching,
its true some parents just dont bother so other kids suffer, its not fair to teaching and non-teaching staff either as they have to nit check also.
But as usual as at our school its a money thing again, councills have not got the funds to provide a nit nurse, they just spent loads on flyers about nits which isnt doing much.
- By hippychick [gb] Date 31.01.04 16:51 UTC
many parents who have children at school for the first time,have not got a clue what nits are what to look for how to stop reinfestation, they need to be educated, we also know at our school that a couple of mothers refuse to believe there children had nits,and someone turned around and said, nits are not fussy,if you have money or not and are clean and house proud they will still get on your childs hair.
the ladys in question then got the message that maybe their kids had nits and because they were not checking their daughters hair that it might be there child infesting the others, when we lived in Wales if your child was suspected of nits they were asked to leave the school and come back when clean.
Carol
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 31.01.04 22:07 UTC
I  have 4 kids who do regularly catch lice at school or off partners in Gothboys case, and just get on with the rotten job. I used to feel as outraged as everyone else when they were reinfested by the usual suspects, but now I dont bother my bum I just do mine. The persistent offenders are the ones I reckon would still refuse to take responsibility for their own kids whether the nurse was there or not, and do the bleating for services to boot. As you say there is a shortage of nurses, and of care assistants if thats what you mean by Nitty Nora of blessed memory, and both could be doing more important things like respite/homecare for people who desperately need it. Yes it is annoying when they get reinfected, and people need information. Our school does it as part of the starting nursery stuff, the Scottish Executive is sending out more leaflets, dunno what they do in England. At the end of the day, my raging about other people will only raise my blood pressure so I accept what I cannot change and live with it.
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