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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / 6 wks GSD and has probelms staying alone
- By alina_d [us] Date 29.12.03 07:51 UTC
My puppy has turned 6 weeks yesterday (she has been with us for 3 days now) and every time she wakes up - she starts whining. It happens every 4 - 5 hours. I have to get up at night 2 - 3 times to calm her down, or she becomes very loud. And it hurts my feelings hearing her crying like this. I gave tons of toys made out of my old clothes, so she would not feel lonely and have a smell of me near her, but I still have to be there with her for 15 mins before she gets enough of my attemtion and falls asleep, or gets busy with her toys. How do I make her stop doing this? Or she will stop on her own when she adjusts to the new environment.
- By Kerioak Date 29.12.03 09:04 UTC
You pup lost its litter mates at four or five weeks, came to you at under six weeks and you complain that it cries when left alone - my pups would still be with the security of their mum and littermates at this age for at least another week and a half.

You tell us (if I remember correctly) your pup has
worms
possibly prolapsed rectum
been vaccinated and wormed at same time (definite No No)
goes for walks with your husband
Vomits
Has dire-rear

You puppy is a baby, possibly a poorly baby with the worm burden you say she has/had, lonely, so of course she will cry, toys (if she knows what these are) are no substitute for company. 

Do you have a baby alarm, if so then put the transmitter in your room and the receiver where she is so she can hear your breathing etc as this *may* help.

I do realise this post does not come across as my most sympathic, but it annoys me that people should be allowed to breed dogs that get into this state and then get rid of them as soon as they possibly can to unsuspecting and unprepared owners

Christine
- By alina_d [us] Date 29.12.03 15:46 UTC
hi Christine, our puppy did not vomit, nor she had/has a dire-rear. But I do agree she has tons of problems and I am panicking right now. You are right the breeder failed to provide good puppy care. It is a good thing she is now with us. Why do you think walking with my husband is a bad idea? Should I take her outside from now on? And why?

I stayed with her all night, in the room where she sleeps, and got up to comofort her every time she cried or whined, and I guess it worked.

About a rectum prolapse, I have just read some about it, and it is a very bad thing (but the info says it gets dangerous when it is several inches long, that is when it has to be surgically removed, the thing Marta (my puppy) has is only 0.3 inch or less (it is tiny,but I still noticed that) and it is pink not bloody or red). I called my vet three times, but he is with other patients, he will call me a.s.a.p. Should I stop feeding her dry food and make home made bouillons out of beef or something like that? Please help. Someone suggested me to buy live yoghurt. What is it and where do I buy it. What does it have in it that makes tummies feel better?

Thanks, Alina.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.12.03 16:37 UTC
I don't know how things work in the US, but in the UK pups generally get their injections at about 8 weeks and 10 weeks, or 10 weeks and 12 weeks (it varies from area to area, vet to vet, and what vaccine manufacturer they use), but the vaccines don't give instant immunity. So pups shouldn't be taken out for walks where other dogs may have been till about 10 days after the second vaccination. Until then, though, they still need to get out and about for socialisation (anything they don't come across after about 16 weeks of age is likely to really scare them), but because they can't go on the ground we have to carry them!

She can of course go in your garden (yard) as long as it is securely fenced and not visited by other dogs (which may be carrying disease).

Live yoghurt is simply yoghurt that still has active bacteria - always recommended after episodes of upset tummy, or a course of antibiotics (even doctors recommend it for people!). It should be available at health food stores if it isn't in your local supermarket.

As long as she is on a good quality dried food, formulated for puppies, she should be fine.

Hope this helps.
:)
- By alina_d [us] Date 29.12.03 19:12 UTC
We just got back from a vet again. She does not have a rectal prolapse :) :) :). I am at ease. The vet said it was an inflamation of tissue around her anus and they gave her two shots to calm the inflamation down (one antibiotics and the other some steroids) They also gave us an ointment to put every 8 hours on her little butt. I am so relieved, it is nothing serious, but they did say if it gets bigger call them and they might have to put stitches there to hold it in (I hope it never happens). The deworming and diarrhea caused it to swell. The vet says she has a bad case of parasites. After what we have gone through just in three days I am ready for anything. And I got a new vet, a senior vet, not the young guy who checked Marta the first time. :)

Also, in US we do deworm pups every two weeks (I asked my vet) untill 12 weeks old (Marta had  her first deworming at 6 weeks [also I asked if medicine killed the eggs, and the vey said no, only adult roundworms :(, that is why it is essential to keep the next apointment and do it again], next at 8 weeks and next at 10, 12, she also got her first combo vaccine. I asked a vet and she said in USA we dont have lungworms that comon), just like in UK or Europe, then every month till 6 months old and then once a year or so, I did not look any further than 6 months. It is just the breeder who did not do a thing. I dont know what he was thinking...Now I am worried about other puppies from Marta's litter.

But I remember when I lived in Latvia we fed our GS puppy with raw meat (beef) and made some soups out of it, and porridge. And my mother still feeds the dog the food she makes for her, not the dry commercial food.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 29.12.03 09:05 UTC
She's a tiny baby, who's not really old enough to be alone for any length of time. She has only just been removed from everything that was familiar to her, where (I'm assuming) she had the company of her mum and littermates. All of a sudden she feels like she's been abandoned - and that is a scary thing for any animal. You can cure this by keeping her company - either have her in your room at night, or you sleep in her 'room' if you don't want her upstairs in the future.
- By Lindsay Date 29.12.03 10:36 UTC
I would agree with both the above, your girl is lonely and frightened and has no  idea what life is all about; and she is very young to have been taken away from her littermates.

I have always kept pups in my room and gradually moved them downstairs, this also helps with housetraining as i wake to take them out when they need it. It must be hard for you, but give her lots of company at night and in a week or two, start to gradually get her used to pleasant short periods on her own bu say, putting her behind achild gate so she can see you, and giving her a nice piece of food or her dinner. It just starts her off learning that it can be nice to be on her own for a short period and helps to prevent separation anxiety.

Do grab a copy of "The Perfect Puppy" by Gwen Bailey too :)

Lindsay
- By alina_d [us] Date 29.12.03 12:00 UTC
thanks, I will try all of that.
- By Bellaluna [dk] Date 29.12.03 12:13 UTC
Hi Alina

My puppy, now 9 months, sleeps in my bedroom, on the floor next to my bed. It's easy, if she dreams or whines, to just put a hand down and comfort her.

As the above have written, she is just a little baby, taken away from her family to soon. Wouldn't you cry if you were taken to a strange place without your family and then left alone for several hours in the dark?

Good luck and a happy new year?

Jeanette and Luna
- By robbie [gb] Date 29.12.03 18:42 UTC
We have a pup( Nemo ) he is just over 7 week's now and has hardly been outside as it's been so cold. He has been booked in to the vet's on Saturday for his first jab and he will get his 2nd jab 2 week's later. After 2 week'she can go for little walk's ect. Since we got Nemo and only being just over 6 week's he sleep's with us in our bed. Not the best thing to do but after a few week's or so he will be put in his cage next to the bed,then after he can be trusted not to chew, annoy the other 2 dog's he will be able to sleep on his bed in our room. I've had a few pup's and this is how I get them to settle in. Don't take the pup out for walk's as it could pick up all sort's of infection's. Nemo get's puppy dog food for pup's between 6week's to 12 month's.
PS Ive been very lucky with Nemo up to now as he has never pee'd on me yet in the bed.
- By lucyandmeg [gb] Date 29.12.03 22:19 UTC
Its a bit off topic but 6 week old pups don't really need walks, they are too young. The only exercise they need is play. Also GSD pups are a large breed so they shouldn't really have too much exercise until a year old or so. It would be a good idea to get out and socialise with the pup by carrying it. (if i remember correctly you are 7 months pregnant, am i right? - you'll want to get the pup socialised early then as they grow large rather quickly and its not easy carrying a big pup with a bump i would imagine!!)
- By alina_d [us] Date 29.12.03 22:23 UTC
well I meant housebreaking her :), not walking, we only take her outside to pee and poo. So far she is not pooping anymore at home (during the day for sure) only pees sometimes and she starts whining when she has to go.
- By lucyandmeg [gb] Date 29.12.03 22:57 UTC
I wasn't sure with the walking thing, thought i would just mention it in case. Shes doing really well!! Congrats! :-)
- By dollface Date 30.12.03 21:58 UTC
You said that her recum is red and swollen and may need stitches if it doesn't go down....Are you talking about a purse string to hold it in? If so it does sound like a rectal prolapse, my dog Dozer has this, we did the purse string and it isn't out as far as it use to be, now it looks like a little cherry so to speak....Is your puppies poo hard when she goes? If so you could try a little bit of baby oragel on her bum to help freeze it this way it should be a little numb for her and will take away some of the pain....Or if her poo is really hard and it does hurt her alot to go poo try giving her a little metamucil but only a little you don't want to give her the runs. I found mixing a little (less then half a tsp) with canned puppy food worked great and Dozer loved it, I had to give it to him 3 times a day, then twice a day. He still has the rectal and he's now 2 years old, I do have to constantly watch him and make sure he is pooping ok or it will cause him pain if his poo is to hard, and in the summer the heat gives him the runs. We are always back and forth with this, but I chose to keep him and not pts when he was born.

Do hope your little girl gets better :) Have you tried having her in the bedroom with you that may help.
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / 6 wks GSD and has probelms staying alone

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