Today in the park I was watching my nieces roller blading, and I meet a couple with a Stafford bitch who's a month older than Sal I've seen them before but their bitch I must say is very aggresive to other dogs regardless of sex/breed. So I usually keep my distance. But today because I had no dog they came over, and the gist is they are mating their bitch when she comes in season, to be honest for a moment I though they had another bitch.

But it seems not she will be about 13-14 months old then. I asked about health checks ie PHPV & HC but they said the dog had had them so it didn't matter

Asked about the sire and it seems they have the choice of two, one untried aged about 9 months who they meet outside Tesco's :( (that mating sounds like it would be a nightmare unexperienced owners and dogs) or an older dog who's 10 :( (who I know is just used by people who are taken in by the fact his sire is a well known champ, he is an average example of the breed although he is a nice family dog, they now charge £200 for the stud)

From what I could figure out they were 80% certain they were going to use the younger dog because he is closer to home ie 10 miles as to 25 miles

They had no idea about the pedigree of the younger dog. But THINK he is KC registered

They even asked if I wanted the names/phone numbers so I could use them on Sal.....I had to walk away I didn't say anything at all.

What I need is a reasoned set of answers for when I see them again. Anyone

Karen

Idiots!

Can you lie and say that there is a strange condition that has appeared in pups when two particular 'lines' have been crossed? That ("Isn't it awful?" - tongue in cheek) the breeders of these pups have been taken to court and lost a lot of money because of it? Have they made certain that these particular lines aren't in the stud dogs and their bitch?

It might possibly get them thinking.
:)

Quite honestly I think you would be wasting your breath, Karen. You could try asking them what they would do if the one of the pups developed a hereditary disease & sued them. Some people can only see reason through ££££££££££££££££££s.

I think you may be right ££££££££££££££ just spoke to Ben better half ;) (he thinks) he recalls talking to the man before and he remembers the man saying the bitches litter mates were equally "nasty" to other dogs. That can't be good to start with. I thought it was just her, but seems not.

They did tell me today they thought the going rate was about £500 a pup!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is the world coming to. Staffords are superb animals and in my opinion the Best Dogs in the world, but after talking to them I can see why people call out to me as I walk "Is she safe" and some won't let theirs play with Sal.

None caring breeders, unstable breeding stock and stupid owners are a disaster to any breed and it seems my breed has a lot of all three It sometimes feels we are going back to the 80's when bad breeding was in evidence everywhere. I just wish we could return to when few people had ever heard of them.

A very fed up Karen

Staffy pups can cost £500 but they are from good lines and have good pedigrees and showing records - not just from someone they met outside Tesco's
its just money to them isnt it - they arent interested in anything else. :(
Unfortunately there always will be people like that . I say people because i cant call them breeders as they arent
Afraid I would have had to say something about her age though!! :(
idiots

Difficult to do, when you are faced with the situation though Lel. Hindsight is a great thing. As I walked away I thought of loads to say. And I agree about the price, but I see them week in week out advertised in "Bargain Papers" priced between £350-£550 and they must be selling. But who to is the question.

Karen

I suppose to the novice the more expensive pup probably means a better bred pup but we all know this isnt true! :(

Me and Stu were talking hypothetically the other week about if someone were to approach us about breeding from Gus ( it has happened recently to someone we know) .
I said I would want to know everything about the bitch and where she came from , who she was bred from etc etc
you would think he was my son and not my dog :)
No ones good enough for my boy :D
lel

EXACTLY.

Its people like this that get the whole breed a bad name. I get really mad about it.