i have a 5yr male neutered terrier, who barks when he is on the lead and a dog is approaching him, i have been sugggested to use an anti bark collor, that emits a spray,

has anyone used these, and had good results???

Yes they do work, I prefer the sort that are opperated with a trigger in your control, the others fire by a mic. and therefore go off at any noise.

bark collars are intended to be used when the dog is by itself not on lead ,plus those citrolnella collars are questionable.......the barking is a symptom of the bigger problem

Kelly expand your comments please.

?? What do you mean by 'those citronella collars are questionable'? Enquiring minds want to know since we have one and it works quite well so I'd disagree, unless you can explain what exactly you mean by that.

Wendy

Why spend all that money? You can get the same effect carrying a water pistol or alternatively, if dog likes being shot by water pistol, why not teach the dog to ignore approaching dog by using click and treat?

Hi I Love Dogs,
I'm interested to see what replies you get from this post. My 15 month beagle barks at people and dogs as they approach us whilst on a walk. I have tried everything to stop this and nothing seems to work. I have tried getting her to concentrate on a treat or toy when someone is approaching and that didn't work. I have tried using metal coins, which you make a noise with them to deter barking. I have also used a water spray. If i'm firm with her in my voice she gets worse and if i try to comfort her she gets worse.
She went to training class from 14 weeks old and now she goes to a local ringcraft. She is fine at the classes and doesn't really bark at people or dogs when we are there. This all started when she was approx 9 months old, after her first season. Before that she was fine.

cant help with barking on a lead but the abistop anti bark collars are brilliant bruno the rotti at work barks at everything in the garden so much so that he ends up spending the whole day indoors which he hates, the antibark collar was put on him and it worked immediatley, he soon learnt not to bark it also stopped him running at the fences mainly because he barked and thought it was the fence :), when he is playing with chloe she barks and it doesnt set the collar off her can eat his food treats etc with it on with no problems the only thing that does set it off other than the dog barking is chain collars, it says in the instruction booklet not to put the antibark collar on with a chain collar but it said nothing about if you drop the chain by the dog, found this out by mistake dropped the chain on the concrete whilst bruno was standing near me only for the pair of us to get sprayed and me spending half hour trying to convience bruno that everything was ok and his chain had nothing to do with it, it took lots of diarylea to do .
they are expensive but well worth it just make sure that you dont run out of refill for the collar.
sorry cant help with barking on the lead, but it could be part of the fight or flight reflex (? cant think if thats the right word or not) if the dog is a little bit insecure this is probably why he is barking as the option to fight or flight is taken away because of the lead barking is the only option but once of lead if the dog sees people/other dogs he has the option to run if he wants to, also (sorry this is long) when he starts barking at people how do you react? do you tense up and panic tighten the lead up shorten the lead etc, if you do you are sending your fear down the lead to your dog he then panics because you are panicking, this could be one reason, hope this all makes sense perhaps there will be someone about who might be able to clarify what i have said and maybe have a solutin for your problem, im sorry i have no solution but never come across this problem before
tanya

I think using a spray collar on a dog in this situation could teach him that other dogs are even more of a threat to him than he first thought - and maybe push him further into attacking rather than just barking. I'd be more inclined to take advice on socialising him properly with a well trained 'stooge' dog and a trainer who can observe and advise......... Spray collars have their place - but this is not one of them IMHO

i got both one noraml and one remote beacuse gollie barks on the lead so she has the one remote on when walking,so if she dose bark i can zap her,the normal one on either her or wispa beacuse when in the house beacuse at time these two do not get on,trying to get top dog states,but when one or the either as it on in the house they get on.beacuse of the smell ,one will not go to the other one,

i think they are very good worth the money i paid out on it.plus i can kept both bitch were i would have had to rehome one,but a dog that comes into this household stays what ever problam we have we will salt it out

Thanks everyone for your comments. My beagle is definately scared rather than aggressive when she barks. She has had no bad experiences that could have made her like this.
With two classes a week and plenty of shows she has plenty socialisation. But i do tense up now when i see another dog coming so i'm sure she knows this. She doesn't bark in the house or the garden just when on the lead so she could feel restricted. I only let her off when there are no other dogs as she is over friendly and wants to play by diving on them and i've had a couple of people complaining that there dogs don't like that.

i agree these collars can be wonderful (and i know at least one person whose dogs don't mind the collar at all, but even just carrying it is a reminder not to bark in agility ;) ) but it is always a good idea to think about the cause of the barking. For instance, if a dog is nervous dont even consider using one.

If a dog barks because it is alone all day, is it fair to use one? If it barks due to nervous aggression, will it make it worse? and so on.....

I am certainly not against them, and have considered using one myself in the past ( eh Wendy! :D ) but i would suggest "use them with care and confidence".

Best wishes

Lindsay
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My hubby wants to purchase such a collar for my dobe bitch as she barks and gets annoyed when out on the lead with me.I tend to ignore her ,try looking to where i am going and to what might trigger her off and avoid a vast contact
E.G if it's other dogs that set her off i try to limit the ammount of dogs that we come across when out,this can mean going round in circles or back tracking.
If it's peple i do the same.

I do carry an assortment of treats at all times as find this takes her mind off it and sends her a signal that if you dont bark ect.. then you get praise..

Hubby has no problems when out walking with her she listens to his tone of voice and obey's..
He say's it's all my fault and my way is too soft...

Sorry ...i think different...

????

Pamie o

i could be wrong but where you are back tracking on your walk when you see people and/or dogs you are possibly showing that you are afraid so your dog is being brave on your behalf, which is why she doesnt behave the same when out with your hubby, if you find her hard to control, (in the sense that she pulls) use a halti or a gentle leader headcollar, also if you are worried that she might bite someone use a muzzle as a precaution (better safe than sorry), then instead of back tracking when you come across people/dogs carry right on past them, dont hurry or walk slowly, try not to tense up just walk as if the distraction are not there, if your dog doesnt bark reward, as the dog realises that you are no longer 'afraid' and if he/she keeps quiet they get rewarded they will soon hopefully stop barking
hth
tanya

try a antibark collar from www.deben.com £70.00 including delivery
they deliver any where,i have one,it works from the second its fitted
peace at last
good luck

hi tanya,
MY pup is a 10 month old dobe whom when barking and growling can give people the wrong idea.
I know she won't bite, but other people jump to conclutions, so i have taken the gradual approach to introducing people and dog's again and it is working.The problem began when she went into season the first tme,and i am glad to say it's not getting worse but restraining a dobe can send out a bad signal to strangers thus my pup can sense fear from them when passing.

Approaching people we know is helping, she barks till she see's who it is then the stubb starts wagging then the whole backside,and the whinging just like a typical exited pup.
Our major setbacks are from the owners who continually open there doors and let ther dogs out on there own and the one's who let ther dog's walk off the lead and expect that when they approach other dogs and say" oh ,he/she wont bite just want's a sniff" that they don't realise this up front approaching can be taken as a threat from an unsure pup.

Pamie o

pamie o,
I know exactly how you feel when your dog starts barking. I have been told by a member of the public that i shouldn't have a vicious dog out. She hasn't got a nasty bone in her body but the barking gives everyone the wrong impression. My dog started this barking after her first season.
It is hard to know what sets them off, i try not to avoid any situations as i don't want her to lack in confidence but it is hard walking towards a group of people talking with dogs when you know whats going to happen. Then they stare at you like its all your fault.

Yup - you really do have to understand the dog and the situation and see if it is suitable for you. I think they are fantastic! I'm the person Lindsay was talking about. Chelsea will come and have hers put on when she's been barking (poor thing) and she won't bark when it's on. If I carry it on the agility course without her wearing it it will keep her from barking during agility and she concentrates so much better - though we've finally progressed to not having to even carry it anymore. For Chelsea it was wonderful - but it was purchased after I had tried every other method.

For my whippet Savannah I would never even consider putting it on her because the spray sound would scare her (she is afraid of windy noises - go figure) so it would do more harm than help. Two different dogs, two different personalities - one I would use it on in a heartbeat, the other I would never think about using it on.

Wendy