Does anyone know of a good wormer for tapeworm, other than Drontal plus?
I have been using Stronghold on my pup, which suits him, so he is covered for roundworm & fleas, ticks, mites etc, but not tapeworm or any other worms. But when I gave him Drontal Plus he was sick, & after reading other posts on this forum I do not want to try giving it again.
Does anyone know if Droncit/Droncet? tablets are effective against tapeworm, safe, and are they any different to Drontal Plus?

panacur is the wormer my vet recomends

Panacur only does roundworm, not tapeworm. Droncit is fine to use against tapeworm, can have similar effects as drontal though. It is not uncommon for dogs to be sick with drontal.

Panacur is effective against roundworm, tapeworm and lungworm.
Lara x

According to this site there is no mention that Panacur is effective against Diplydium caninum, which is the most common tapeworm of the dog.
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And here's one [link http://www.wormers.co.uk/acatalog/index.html?http%3A//www.wormers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Dogs___Cats_16.html&CatalogBody] site [/link] that says it is!
Lara x

The impression I get from reading these 'blurbs' is that there are many different varieties of tapeworm, and not all products are effective against all of them. I must investigate Drontal, but it certainly appears that Pancur is not effective against the variety of tapeworm most commonly found in dogs, though it may be effective against others.

You're right JG.
Panacur treats roundworm and thats pretty much it.
Lara, Drontal is a dual wormer and treats round and tapeworm, panacur is not a duel wormer, it is much more basic and only treats roundworm. The main variety of tapeworm (as specified by JG) is NOT treated by it, and that is what the poster requires.
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Thanks Steph :) I alternate between Drontal and Panacur every 3 months with my dogs. Can't say I've paid much attention to the spiel on the packaging though :)
Lara x

Hello all,

I adopted Poppy(Labrador Retriever) 3 months ago and last Saturday, 25th Oct I gave her Drontal(first time I'd given this to her). A few days later she became seriously ill and has been seen by the vet every day since.She was very sick (couldnt even keep water down) and also passing watery diarrheoa with quite a bit of blood and mucus. The vet said it was 'possible' that the worming tablets had attributed to this when I asked her about it, and I think its very likely too. Anyway today there is an improvement, thank goodness. I have been going out of my mind with worry and thought we were going to lose her at one point.

She has been treated with anti inflammatory injections, injections to stop the sickness, and now Pro Kolin to line the stomach. She also had an injection to stop the sickness and was given Lectade to prevent dehydration.

If Drontal really is to blame I feel I can never worm her again. I dont want her to suffer this ever again, so I am now faced with a real dilemma! I am pleased to see this thread with a suggestion for alternatives to Drontal but still feel anxious about the whole worming procedure.

I should add that Poppy is not a dog prone to sickness and she didn't have a raised temperature at all.
The vet positively diagnosed inflammation to the bowel and I cant think of anything that could have done it, other than Drontal.

I will look for other posts elsewhere on this board regarding Drontal.
Thank you all for your really helpful discussions here - they do help so much.

Best wishes to all,
Val

Hi Val
Very sorry to hear about Poppy

As has been mentioned, there are other wormers that you could try. Panacur for one, generally has no after affects and although it is not a dual wormer like drontal, it is very good. Please dont go to shop bought brands as an alternative as they are no good, they are just expensive pieces of cardboard with a little pill attatched.

Try panacur..I think you will find she is fine after it.
Dont let one bad experience put you off. I used to be a vet nurse and have seen lots of cases of bad reactions to drontal. There are always alternatives.
Good luck...try not to panic. Give panacur a try.
Steph
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After reading about Drontal + on these pages, it must be apparent that there is a real problem with this wormer. Max, my Cavalier King Charles, has had Drontal twice.  In both cases he was sick shortly after and had severe diarrohea, passing blood with his watery facaes. I cannot bring myself to worm him again.  The Vet has supplied me with Panacur-I have yet to try this.  I had hoped to take Max to France, and had set in motion all the necessary to get him his dog passport.  All of this has been cancelled, just after he had been micro-chipped.  The reason I have had to cancel our holiday plans?..the vet reliably informs me that on the way back from France, I would have to get Max wormed, yes, you've guessed it, with Drontal. The French will not use any other brand.

If it's any consolation, I give my lot Drontal every 3 months and have never had a problem with it.
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There are a few natural worming products available, haven`t got the addies to hand at the moment but will put them on later for anyone interested. Since feeding my dogs raw, for over 2yrs now, I`ve not had to use any worming or flea treatments & had my dogs fecal tested a few mths back results were negative. Garlic is a known repellent to parasites, also pumpkin seeds cna be used as well. I think I posted a worming cure a while back on how to use them but I can`t find it now but maybe somone remembers what it was under?
I`d just like to say to those whos dogs have had a reaction to worming products have any of you made an Adverse Reaction Report out? I`d urge you to do it, it`s the only way products are ever going to be changed to make them safer. If they go unreported the true amount of dogs will never be known who have suffered reactions & nothing will ever be changed.

Christine, Spain.

Does anyone know if drontal reacts with heart medication?  My dog was put on an ace inhibitor two weeks ago and last week I wormed her with drontal.  Her back legs got unsteady and have been collapsing under her at times, only since I gave her the Drontal. Does it react badly with some drugs?  Would the fact that it killed all intestinal worms have affected the absorbtion of the ace inhibitior as I see muscle weakness can be a sign of too much ace inhibitor.
Surely if her leg problem was neurological she would possibly be incontinent too? Or if it was arthritis there would be pain?  She is in no pain whatsoever and believe me she is a wuss.    She is a half foxy /half chihuahua and around thirteen years old. Up until I took her in for laboured breathing she was walking a mile a day and perky, the vet diagnosed heart murmur hence the ace inhibitors.  But she was still taking small walks and getting around until I gave her the drontal. She is still getting around our half acre section but her legs are weak by the evening. I really would welcome any comments. Because of her leg weakness I have today cut her ace inhibitor to a half dose--- I know she cannot just come off it --but there is no vet available until tomorrow to help.

> Would the fact that it killed all intestinal worms have affected the absorbtion of the ace inhibitior

I would imagine she would have had to have had a pretty heavy burden of worms to have affected her absorbtion.  Do you think that was likely?
My dog is on an ace inhibitor, along with 5 other medications, but have never had any problems dosing her with Drontal.
I think perhaps the fact your dog has been so recently started on it suggests it may simple need an adjustment to the dose but hopefully your vet will be able to supply the answers tomorrow.

Milbemax. :)

Thanks Isabel,   She perked up this afternoon and insisted on walking to the local shop with me but tonight is really tired again. We will see what gives tomorrow.

Smudgley,  is milbemax another wormer?  I have not heard of that one and as I am in NZ do not know if I can source it. Will have to check.  Thanks anyway.

I have used Panacur on my oldest poodle who is 4 but found days later that he had tapeworm so had to get Drontal again from the vets. I have 2 toy poodles now who need one half of a tablet each and have found the only way i can give them it without them being sick is to give them half their dose and then give the other half about half an hour later. I told the vet what I was doing and although she couldn't understand why this should make any difference agreed that it was ok to do it this way if it stopped them being sick.

Re my earlier question, I have since been told by my vet that the regular collapse of the back legs is caused by weakness from the heart problem.

My vet has just given me Milbermax and he didn't react to this at all, so will be going on that. Covers Tape, Round and Hook worm.

Milbemax is also licenced for use with pet passport scheme for worming in addition to Drontal.

I take my meds with me when I travel - drugs available in Europe are often different, I use Advantix rather than Frontline for the flea treatment and the Dutch vets tell me they cant get in in Holland.

K

> I have since been told by my vet that the regular collapse of the back legs is caused by weakness from the heart problem.

I would say so too.  I think people are confused by you mentioning the worming possibly affecting the absorbsion of the heart medication :-) It certainly does not sound like a reaction to the wormer so I doubt you need to find a different one.
Since the outset of her heart condition, my dog has been unable to cope with any exercise beyond very short trips into the park over the road or mostly just around the garden and even standing and eating or drinking water for any length of time causes her back legs to gradually sink down but if it is any consolation to you she has been continuing like this for over 2 years now.  It took a month or two, or three even, to get her medications just so but there has been no further deterioration to speak of.  
Each case is different but I sincerely hope your dog with be as fortunate and to be as happy and contented for as long as mine has been.