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By Jackie H
Date 29.09.03 17:43 UTC
Found a pup I think I will like and now I have a coughing dog, ok it may be nothing but if it is Kennel Cough I have a problem as I am due to pick the pup up the first week in November.
Now you lot, can’t do anything about my luck so I am not asking that, but would like to know first, is there Kennel Cough about and second, it is so long since I have had it I can’t remember what I gave the dog that had it before, I have the non-drowsy Benylin the cupboard and have given a Childs dose, is that ok? Oh! and BUMS :(
By charley_uk
Date 29.09.03 17:52 UTC
The kennels I work voluntary for...give this for there dogs...so its ok.
Charley
By Jackie H
Date 29.09.03 17:56 UTC
Thanks I just could not remember it is so long since I have had it, suppose I am lucky, but why now.
By John
Date 29.09.03 18:16 UTC
Sorry to say there is Kennel Cough in this area Jackie, (South Bucks) a friends Goldens have all had in in the last couple of weeks.
With my Labs I give the original adult Benylin. A tea spoon full. (Of course, Anna's over 6 stone!!)
Best wishes, John
By Jackie H
Date 29.09.03 21:02 UTC
Thanks John, I was at a show with him 9 days ago, I did not hear any coughing and the only dogs he was near were some Staffies whos owners put their cages next to me, but there you go , if it is Kennel Cough it is very contagious but by the time it has gone through my lot I can say goodbye to having my new pup, well will ask the vet but at 8 weeks old I am not sure about bringing in a pup even if they have stopped coughing. What do you think. Pi*sed off Jackie
By John
Date 29.09.03 21:11 UTC
Sorry Jackie, just about the worst possible time for you. Any chance of the breeder hanging onto the puppy for a while?
Regards, John
By Jackie H
Date 29.09.03 21:16 UTC
Yes, I am sure if I go and look and say I do want him they will, but it is not what I wanted, having mostly males it works best if you can bring them in at least below 12 weeks, and if it is Kennel cough and it works it's way through my dogs we could be talking about 20+ WEEKS, oH! SH*T.
By mari
Date 29.09.03 22:29 UTC
Jackie get stockholm tar
get tin lids and put some in to lids and place them where dogs sleep
it works
also yes benylin a teaspoon every 4 hours and rescue remedy to quieten and relax the dog
Mari
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<<<also yes benylin a teaspoon every 4 hours and rescue remedy to quieten and relax the dog>>>
And not just the dog that is coughing, I'd give it to them all (the Benylin) as a precautionary measure. Good luck, hope you do get your pup :)
By Jackie H
Date 30.09.03 11:52 UTC
Well his cough was so productive this morning the carpets look like I already have a puppy! Took him to vet as he seemed to have a bit of a rattle and the vet has given him some AB's so hope he will improve soon. Never had one as bad as this and he also seemed a bit poorly which is not usual either.
Asked the vet about having the pup and he said 4 weeks should be ok, much less than I thought so if the others are going to get it I hope they do it soon.
Thanks for your replies, this is the 3rd puppy I have attempted to get this winter, lets hope it's 3rd time lucky. Enough to make me spit as well.
By cissy
Date 30.09.03 15:12 UTC

Jackie - please can you tell me the colour of the stuff being coughed up?
My dog was exposed yesterday to a dog [by its idiot owner who didn't tell me her dog was sick but let the dog approach everything in the park]. The dog seemed to "throw up" orangey stuff and then hacked and hacked. It could have been vomit or coughed up - I saw it at a distance which is when I realised the dog was ill.
I assume I have to wait 5-10 days for incubation - is this about right?
thanks
Cissy
By Jackie H
Date 30.09.03 16:27 UTC
Hi Cissy, well the pools my dog is making are white throthy and stringy, difficult to clear up but I'm learning. Yes 5 - 10 days is about correct. Unfortunately I was at a show on Saturday before I knew my lad was ill, would never have gone had I have known but the vet seemed to think that what ever he has would not be contagious before he started coughing and that he would be clear about a week after he stopped. So won’t be making Driffield and fingers crossed for Midland Counties. Must say I have never had a dog that has been effected like this before, it is more like a chest infection in a child you can hear the rattle.
By cissy
Date 30.09.03 16:37 UTC

thanks. Poor thing, hope he gets well soon. I hate it when they get sick.
By Lisa-safftash
Date 30.09.03 22:24 UTC
Aww, Jackie,
How annoying for you. Hope you are able to get your puppy soon.
And hugs to the poor lad, lets hope the AB's work fast and he doesn't have to put up with that coughing for too long. It's horrible isn't it?
Hugs to you too.
Lisa
By Jackie H
Date 01.10.03 06:35 UTC
Good news The Sod is 110% better this morning, which leaves me a bit confused.
Always been led to believe that Kennel Cough is cause by a virus like the human common cold which as we all know has to run it's course and although the symptoms can be helped the condition can't be cured and you just have to wait for it to run it's course. Now The Sod has responded in less than 24 hours to antibiotics, the improvement is amazing, so it leaves me with these thoughts and questions.
Now did he not have true Kennel Cough?
Or if he did is it caused by something else other that a virus?
Bacteria may be?
Or do dogs suffer from different lung or throat infections and they are all lumped together under a generic name of Kennel Cough?
And if this is so, is it because it is a respiratory disease caused by an infectious agent, as opposed to a system failure like heart diseases?
Well folks anyone got any answers. Because it does make you wonder about things like the length of time you should keep them in and away from other dogs. As I said earlier I have always thought 12 weeks from the start of the illness but the vet suggested much less yesterday.

Hi Jackie, glad the Sod is on the mend! According to my vet book, "kennel cough" is a loose term applied to one of a number of infections that have coughing as a symptom.
Bordetella bronchiseptica is a bacterial infection (so will respond to ABs). Other infections include
canine adenovirus, canine herpesvirus and canine parainfluenza virus. Of course, being viruses, they won't be cured by ABs, but the medication will prevent any secondary infection.
Hope this helps.
:)

hi jackie
has you all know oct 10 last year i lost my litter of f/c puppies to kc,it this time of year it rise it ugly head,there are different type of kc,just like human with colds,like you say there virus and bacteria kc,the worse one is bacteria one which cause secondarly infection,like chest infection,meningitis, and high temp which cause fits,like in babys if they get high temp,it like any illness it will hit the weakes part of the boby,the kc got to be very bad to to cause heart disease,if will kill the young and old dog,and very sick dogs,but it the secondarly infection that the problem that cause the death,not the kc,
when the dogs had last year no one came round for 6 weeks,i didnt take the dogs out,it 7 to 10 before the dog will kc,and up to 4 weeks before getting back with other dogs,
its bad down here in surrey/hants,
By Jackie H
Date 01.10.03 07:31 UTC
Don't think there is much around here (Lincs) as the vet was seemed suprised when I said I thought my dog had it.
Hi Jackie, like J/G & Terri have said KC can be either viral or bacterial or both! They all tend to get lumped together cos all have very similar symptoms. No real answers to your questions really except he`s had some form of KC. Here`s a link you might find interesting.
http://www.ivis.org/advances/Infect_Dis_Carmichael/keil/chapter_frm.aspChristine, Spain.
By Jackie H
Date 01.10.03 09:07 UTC
Have decided it must have been bacterial, as the antibiotics have made such a difference. This has been nothing like any of mine have had before, in that he was very quiet on Monday evening and by Tuesday morning was very poorly, before I have found apart from the cough the adult dogs were not ill. And he seemed worse when at rest than he did when I took him into the field for a run.
Have had a secondary infection that responded to ab's but not anything like this before, still he is almost back to his old self today and I suppose that is what matters really.

If the older ones have3 had Kennel Cough before, they may end up not getting it, or very lightly. I would think you will be fine in a month when you would be due to have the pup. Perhaps ask the breeder to get it's jabs done at 8 and 10 weeks, and you could have it by 11 if you are really worried, otherwise just get her to do the first jab a few days before picking him up.
By Jackie H
Date 01.10.03 09:51 UTC
Yes they had had it several times and Saxon had a secondary infection but that was after he had had a cough for 5 or 6 days. This is so different, still as I say there would seem to be little wrong with him to day, instead of the sad Solli of yesterday I had The Sod back and very please I am too. ;)
Do hope he has not passed it on to anyone at the show on Saturday, he did not have direct contact with any other dogs but with all the shouting he was doing he could have infected half of Coventry. But I did not know so I just hope I have not cause anyone else a problem.
By mattie
Date 01.10.03 11:31 UTC
benlyn is excelent given with some natural honey the honey helps the throat

Well my lot are disgustingly healthy, and I came and gave the sod an ear scratch :D
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