Hiya, i have a male 10 month old Olde Tyme Bulldogge and up until recently he has been a great dog,very laid back with a very placid nature,and recently he has started `humping` everything in sight,including me,my husband,and our young child, is there anything (apart from having him castrated) that we can do to stop this behaviour? he is a lovable loyal family friend who we love to pieces but hes a big old boy, and he is starting to hurt us as he is really heavy around 81/2 stones.
so if you give any advice,please do so.
thank you.
Gillian.

It is normal behaviour for males, and although castration may help there is no guarantee that it will, it could and sometimes does make matters worse, as left alone the dog will grow out of the desire to do it, but if castrated will remain a teenager for the rest of its life, and the behaviour may well continue.

With a dog of the size he is you will have to make sure you have him under strict control and that he stops doing what he is when you ask, and only consider castration as the last resort. After all you would not have bought this cross if you had not wanted the look and size you are getting, castrate now and the chances are you will not end up with the sort of dog you were wanting and you may as well have brought a pedigree in the first place.

Thats the BULLDOG in him all bulldogs are over sexed you have to put up with it they do learn not to do to then they start to pleeeease them selves and then you have a dog trying to walk with a hard on.

God my bully must be impotent then as he has never humped and only occaisionally gets `excited` when we come home and he gets silly,
Sam

Hi sam what breed of Bullie do you have?

Hi Corso Girl,
I have a Bulldog as in `British`, a lovely boy with a great sense of humour :)

samandkev, do you show it and what lines are yours, mine are/ have Lynmans/Iceglint.

Hi,
Mines a Tuffntrusty, his mum won best bulldog 1999, about 16 weeks after she had his litter.
Did show him quite a lot as a pup and junior and he was quite good, won two best pups in group, unfortunately job stopped me showing as much as i would have liked and then he went and got epilepsy last november so we stopped the showing as long stressful days out can only increase the chance of a fit.
We then got him castrated as there really was no point in having the bits anymore, certainly couldnt have pups and didnt need them to show.
He is a lovely bullie though and has been fit free since on medication, touch wood.
We are in the process of looking for another dog , dont want a pup though so its taking a while to find something suitable,
sam

Hi sam, what a shame about him having epilepsy at least you have it under control, are you looking for some thing to show or just for a pet, hope your boy stays fit, bye

Hi Corso Girl,
Just looking for a pet really, not got the time to show anymore. Do you know of any one who has kept on a pup which hasnt been as successful as first thought in the show ring and they may be looking for nice bullie home for them? i would be very interested in a dog or bitch of any age really just to keep my boy company.
Sam

I notice you are in the Bucks area just wondering how close you are to me ?

Hi Corso Girl,
Im in MK, got your mail and have replied,
Sam x

Please forgive my total ignorance but what is the difference between an Olde Time Bulldogge and our British Bulldog?

Hi Sooz,
A "British" Bulldog (officially simply "Bulldog") is a pedigree dog, as is the French Bulldog. A bulldog with anything else in its name is a crossbreed.
:)

Hi Sooz, your guess is as good as anyone elses, it's some sort of crossbreed mastive that some one has called a Bulldogge because Bulldogs are worth a lot of money.

mine have lynmans and iceglint lines as well corso!.:).

Hi tanni, nice to hear from you, my two young girls that i kept from last litter are 7 months and live together but i think there season might not be to far off as we have had two scraps today so we will see how it goes but i think it's time to part them so each has own space most of the time just together when i am here just as i do with the other lot. hope every thing is okay with you have you got a new pup yet? bye for now.

in response to jackieh

no thats not the case for dorset old tyme bulldogs or victorian bulldogs that have benn generations of breeding their lines to nothing but the same type.
i would agree a lot of people are now breeding old tyme for money but these are probably f1 or even f2 generations.
dorset and victorians are well into f20 generations.so they are not cross breeds.
also american bulldogs,old southern whites and johnson bulldogs can be classed as old tyme bulldogs.
the term old tyme bulldog is a term to describe a dog that is more closer to the original bulldog before the original british bulldog was bred for smaller height,shorter muzzle ,large heads small hips etc.

hi corso. we have a 21/2 yr old girl who is due in season any day. after a lot of soul searching and a visit to our breeder who has been fantastic we are going to mate her.so fingers crossed everything will work out this time. we have pick of litter from pups due in the near future ...so we are going to be busy!.:).

Thats great lots of luck, i didn't know you had another female? is this one Lynmans/Iceglint lines

I have had the pleasure of meeting the local (dorset) Old Tyme Bulldog and was totally thrilled with this vivacious, friendly, happy, playful and very sweet dog who played with my BSd and ran around full of life and fun.

I am not a bully owner or particularly a bully lover, BSDs being my chosen breed, but I was struck by the wonderful personality of this dog. She was a young bitch. There is someone in Dorset near me, who is trying to breed true to his ideals and there seems to be some history in it. There was an article in one of the dog mags on him a few years ago and the Victorian bulldog was mentioned but i can't remember much more and i've never met him, only one or two of his dogs.

I was truly impressed by this dog, she was wonderful :)

Lindsay

Hi Lindsay,

Ive just bought a Dorset Old Tyme Bulldogge from the breeder you mentioned in Dorset. He showed us the puppies, theyre parents, their grandparents and all the other dogs he has. He was very proffessional and told us the history of his dogs and how he founded the breed. Like you, i am very impressed with his dogs and consider myself very lucky to have one. We have a pedigree red and white male, who at the moment is keeping me on my toes with his night crying, but litter training him is going a little bit better. Weve only had him 5 days so i suppose it takes a bit of time but ive never had a dog before so its all a bit worrying! We are trying to crate train him, but were not confining him just to that, as he has the run of the kitchen aswell. Does anybody have any tips on how to cure the whining at night and when he is left alone?

Any advice is appreciated,
Thanks,
Sharon

Aw, luvverly, enjoy him :)

I would suggest getting "The perfect Puppy" by Gwen Bailey because it pretty much goes into everything, and is so reassuring esp. for new owners. Also if you are in Dorset area, i can recommend a v. good pup class for socialisation which is important for all puppies :)

Let me know if you want the trainer's details.

Lindsay

Sharon, try leaving a radio on low for him during the night, with speech not music, and do not go down to him at all. Buy ear plugs if it is keeping you awake. How old is he I take it about 9 or 10 weeks. Start training early as he will be a big dog and that makes it imperative you have a disciplined adult dog.

i would leave the puppy to it.i think you should let him wail and not go to him when he does or he will associate you coming when he wails and he wont ever stop then.he is a dorset then he is going to be a strong dog temp wise as well as physically.my first dog i used to go to when he cried dont make this mistake.if anything put something that smells of his littermates like a rag with the mum smell or litter smell.but let him take it.ask steve i think you goty it from him.hes a great guy and will surely help you out.

If the pup cries during the day when you are out the room say, and go into the garden or another room, totally ignore but wait for a lull inthe noise; when he is quiet wait a few seconds and then return with praise :)

Gradually insist on a little bit longer and as he grows teach him "Quiet" too. Praise or treat when he does well :)

During the night, i have always gone to a pup if it cries as i assume it may need the toilet. I feel otherwise we are making it harder to toilet train as veryvery few pups hang on all night. MInd you i do sleep in the same room for a few weeks so i tend to know if they need the toilet as they aren't crying for company.

I dont make a fuss or praise, but calmly go out with pup, and if he "goes" praise, if not, call inside and without speaking or praise put back to bed (or ignore and they will go back to sleep we hope!).

I have never had a pup learn to cry or "made a rod" for my own back with this method ;)

It's also easier on me, because i can get back to sleep knowing they don't need the toilet :)

Lindsay

The cuddly toy is a good idea, can your everyday cuddly toy suffice or is it dangerous if the inside is swallowed?

Anyway, thanks for the advice, Only one problem....

During the day i can ignore him and then priase him when hes quiet, but at night its a different kettle of fish as i live in a flat, therefore do not have a garden, so Rocky goes to the loo when he wants. At the moment this is here there and every where, so when he whines i do check to make sure its not in his bed. If its not then the only other reason i can think why hes crying isnt becuase he needs letting out (as i said, we dont do this as no garden) but becuase he is calling for us.
Do you think things will get better if i get him used to being left alone for longer periods in the day? And i have neighbours underneath me to think of so i cant just ignore him and let the crying go on for too long at night.

Sharon

Hi,
Just out of interest, if you don't have a garden, where are you training him to use as his 'loo'? You obviously won't be able to let him 'go where he wants' when he's an adult. So get him used to one place now - maybe your balcony?

Glad I don't live underneath. :(

Ditto, Jackie. Luckily with the colder weather there won't be as many flies .... :(

The idea of urine dripping from the balcony all summer long - ekkk- bad enough with my lot and they are all at ground level and I have control of the neutraliser.

I guess it might be possible to rig up some kind of large leak-proof litter tray, maybe with turf changed every week. I've heard people do that with toy breeds sometimes, but not with a dog as big as this one's going to be. I get the impression (but could be wrong) that the practicalities of this haven't been properly thought through.

Well i think those last few replys werent neccessary. But thanks to those who gave good advice.

Since my last post, Rocky has stopped whining and settled in perfectly. He goes to the toilet on the newspapered area in the kitchen more often than not although he does still have a few accidents but thats to be expected. Hes got used to being left alone for short periods throughout the day and has already learnt some basic commands. We have considered having a dog for quite a few months before going ahead with it and i dont see why someone who lives in a flat cant have the joy of owning a dog. Next week we will be able to take Rocky out for walks, and we will be trainig him to eliminate outside by moving his newspaper to the door and taking him downstairs when he needs the loo. This will obviously take time to perfect but many poeple i have spoken to who owned dogs in flats say this is what they done and given time and pateince actually works. In fact, my boyfriends past dog used to sit by the door untill you let him out for a wee and he lived in a house! So what difference does a flat make!!!!!

Oh and by the way, i dont have a balcony so living beneath me and the idea of flies really isnt an issue is it! But thanks anyway.

Of course I did not mean to suggest that people living in flats can't own a dog, but a dog such as yours will need to be outside for much of the day during the summer months, so I assumed you will allow access to your balcony, in which case you better make sure the dog knows not to uses said balcony as a toilet. As you now say you do not have a balcony and have a garden that is fine as you will be keeping the dog once adult in the garden at least during the summer months.

Although i have access to quite a large garden/grounds, they are communial but i dont think anyone will mind him being there during the day! i only work 3 days a week so he can have as much time outside as he likes in the summer! Im quite looking forward to next year actually, my son will be about 1 and a half by then and days out to the beach and picnics will be welcomed by both im sure!
Well, il let you know how things go once he can go on walks. We'll see if the eliminating outside works!