I had a puppy enquiry yesterday from a lady who said that she wanted one of my puppies because she had been told that mine were KC reg (surprise surprise), I said to her that most reputable breeders would have registered with the KC and then she said that whilst ringing round she had been told that one litter were registered with Dog Lovers and that due to this they cost more, she had been quoted £375 for an eight week old puppy with no vaccinations.

Does anyone know who Dog Lovers are????

"Dog Lovers" is a register which basically means nothing...anyone can 'register' any dog with them and get a bit of paper saying they have a 'registered halitosis-hound' and away you go.....

Here :rolleyes: But halitosis-hound can hold his head up with pride :)

It's good fun, playing on that site! I've just registered a "pedigree" dog, sire labrador, dam dalmatian, and invented the names of all the forebears!

Just shows what that registration is worth - I think I'll keep it in the loo, and use it when the roll runs out!

It makes me angry to think of all the poor suckers who think it's genuine

I once had my dogs insured by E&L. Oh they were great at taking your money but terrible for paying you should you have to make a claim. Needless to say I cancelled.
Margaret

Alice if you use the search facility in the top right hand corner of the forum page, you will gain access to many past threads on this subject :-)

Oh yes,
Dog lovers , I think you pay about £5 to register a dog with them, and you get a 3 gen pedigree and a registration certificate. But it doesn't mean anything. They advertise in papers like Ad trader and the bargain pages, thats the only place i've seen them anyway. (they do have a website, but I don't know the addy)

It made me laugh when I read your post...someone contacted me wanting my dog for stud, and only wanted to know if he was KC reg'd!!! (he's a GSD, what about hips??!)

Lisa

I am a bit naive and unknowledgable about how these things
work but I once read a post somewhere on this site
that said breeders can become KC registered by paying a fee...
this isn't true is it? surely there are regulated checks etc?
My puppy is KC reg and the breeder was excellent, giving advice, produced all paperwork, checked me out and had done all the tests etc so I am not worried about my puppy...just a bit confused as I thought KC registered was a high as you could get as a breeder.

For potential inexperienced owners wanting a pedigree it is horribly confusing. I was lucky as my dad knew a lady who had shown and bred and was a member of KC but what about people who don't know where to turn? I came across quite a few dodgy characters!

Hi Louise,
As far as I know there is no such thing as a "KC registered breeder". The KC only registers dogs....there are KC lists of breeders, but last I heard (and my info could be out of date) anybody who had a litter of pups which were KC registered (and this includes some from very dubious sources) could pay a fee and have their names put on the list - no checks, no guarantee of quality. :(

They do restrict the list to those breederds that have registered less than 5 litters in any 12 month, these are not required to be rgistered as commercial breeders by the Local Authority.

Sadly there are small scale "Pin money" breeders who though not anything like a puppy farmer, breed just for the money without any thought of the quality of the pups produced.

KC registration proves that the puppy is born of dogs that were themselves KC registered out of parents who were registered, and back to the begginings of the breed. this way their pedigrees can be verified, all supposing that the breeders were honest about the dogs that actually mated and had puppies, as opposed to who a litter was attributed to. This does happen a lot with Puppy farmed KC registered pups. Otherwise why do they often seem to have much larger than average litters, perish the thought that they have found the secret of rearing huge littersat minimum costs, when the rest od us hoobby breeders are having C sections, fading puppies, or clumsy bitches that sit on a pup!

A friend of mine moved to a somewhat isolated village just over the border in Scotland. She couldn't find a job and one of her daughter's school-friend's mother suggested that she breed dogs 'to make some money' because that was what she did :( My friend has never even had a dog, let alone bred them - needless to say she declined the suggestion.

Daisy

Well we were lucky then, as our breeder mainly shows rather than breeds and he only breeds because he loves schnauzers so much!
He was genuinely upset by our little one leaving, in fact we were at his home for over two hours!
It really is frightening the way some of these ‘so called pedigree’ puppies are brought into the world!
A puppy is as huge as having a baby (well was to us anyway), and
these puppy farms are just taking advantage and churning them out.