I need to find a stud minature pooble in the UK.

Errrrrrrrr. why . Or rather why are you asking us. The first port of call should be the breeder of your bitch, unless of course you have done all the reserch in which case you would not need to ask the question.
Jackie

If there is a miniture poodle club then they should be able to point you in the right direction, also try going to some shows and speaking to the breeders.

I know when we were at a cat show in Birmington, and we spoke to one of the contestents about breeding our exotics, they were really helpful and gave us a list of their friends and contacts made through showing that had stud cats.

If this fails, then try the kennel club, they should be able to provide you with a stud list.

Good Luck,

Lobster :)

At, at cat show? The KC do keep a list of dogs with stud book numbers but this includes bitches and dogs and is more a record of the dogs success, as far as I know they will not make suggestions as to what dog you should use, how could they as they do not know enough about either party. speak to your bitches breeder.
Jackie

Dear Ja:)kie,

I was trying to be helpful, we do not know the whole story, maybe she does not want to deal with this breeder further.

I was giving an example of how helpful people can be at a show, weather it is a dog or cat show is irrelevant ( and I don't mean a grey thing with a trunk).

And I thought this site was to help one another, not to be sacastic about people questions, which seems to be your forte.

Obivously if we knew all the answer like you, we would'nt need this site.

Regards Lobster ;)

I'm sorry if you think I was trying to be sarcastic, I was wondering how a cat show would help. I realise now you meant a dog show. I and indeed most people will say go back to your bitches breeded because it is the quickest way to find a suitable stud. If the poster has fallen out with the breeder of her bitch, which I don't think she mentioned, showing the bitch and trying to research the bitches backgroud is the other way but that will take a good deal of time, but by the time she has the info needed she will know which stud to use and will not need our help. We can't help on this board because we don't know the bitch, if the poster would like to let us know the bitches name and breeding some one may be able to help, but it is best to contact either the bitches breeder or that of her sire.
Jackie

The kc doesn't provide "stud lists"

Thats what I said Sam, must learn to get straight to the point, think the cats threw me.
Ja;)kie

I am sure you have engouraged this guest poster to put another question forward!!!!!

I thought the Kennel club were there to help breeders and I know that stud dogs are placed on a register, forgive me for assuming they provided a "stud list", when they open on Monday I will ask their advice on this matter, as they may have some HELPFUL advice for this breeder, I will come back to the message board with their answer, if indeed the guest poster hasn't been scared away.

And I think your point about the cats putting you off is a slight contradiction, going by what you said in your last posting about misunderstanding!!!!!

Good luck breeder anyway. don't let these healthy debates put you off, it will only engourage all of us to look into it further, which will in the end put you in the right direction.

Kind regards

Kelly (lobster)

Kelly

You are probably getting Stud Book Numbers and Stud (as it mating) mixed up.

Stud Book Numbers are published in the annual stud book and consist of list of dogs in various breeds who have won certain awards at various shows/trials/competitons thus earning a "stud book number"

Christine

And of course the KC Stud Book contains the names of bitches as well as dogs :-)

Lobster

You only registerd 2 days ago and already you are making attacks on experienced peoples comments. I would say they now what they are on about ;)

And I am sure that the guest will come back for advice :)

D:pGS

Yes I may have only registered a few days ago, but that does not mean I was born yesterday, and I have a right to my oppion. As everybody has no matter when they join.

And if you go back to the orignal post, you will see I was trying to help this breeder, and I did not make an attack on them, but I responded to one.

I did state I may be wrong about the "Stud List".

And having oppions on things, does not make you experienced.

I have been breeding and showing dogs and cats for over 20 years, and never have I pretended I knew everything, as no one does, times do change.

The kennel club has pointed me in the right direction, when I have needed help in number of matters.

Regards Kelly :)

Lobster

I did not state that you were making a attack on the guest I know you are trying to help them, I said you were making a attack on peoples comments. Like you pointed out everyone has a right to there opion.

It does not matter how long you have been registerd till you make a comment, I just think from my own experience it is better to come on this site willing to listen to everyones opion, and not just your own.

Dear Dogs,

I have to say that I agree with Lobster, I have only joined now so I could respond to your attack on her, but to be honest after seeing Jackies response to that breeder, I felt my question about finding a stud dog would get the same reaction, so I thought I would see if anyone else came up with some more helpful advice.

I phoned the Kennel club yesterday, after reading Lobsters suggestions and they provided me with a list of GSD breeders and I am going to look at a stud dog tomorrow.

My own breeder sadly pasted away, so I am unable to go back to her.

So her advice about the Kennel club, may not have been spot on, but it pointed me in the right direction.

Ilovedogs.

Hi Ilovedogs,

Thanks!!!!!

Good luck with your stud dog,

Glad to have a newy like me.

Regards Kelly ;) (Lobster)

ROFLWTSDMF!!!!!
Heidi, thanks for the good laugh :) :) Talk about a 180 degree switch !!! I hope you don't mind my recollections of your first week on here!!!!! :P :P :D :D :D :D :D :D I'm not saying anymore, but I"m sure you know what I'm talking about. I hope this doesn't anger you at all, but it IS humorous!!! :D :D
toodles

Eoghania

:D :D :D

I am a changed woman :)

Dear Dogs

looking through the site, I can see you've had your fair share of heated debates. 21/09/02

If you read your comments, they echo mine.

Seems we have more in common than you may like.

I do value other people opions, that is why I joined the site after days of reading the message board, I found some peoples advice extremley helpful and alot of their stories very interesting.

Regards Lobster ;) (KELLY)

lobster,
in defence of a lot of the regular posters on here, time after time the question of looking for a "stud dog" ,"i want to breed my bitch" comes up and the likes of jackie h, write very detailed and imformative posts in the hope that it will help answer posters questions, it becomes obvious at times that people do not want to listen to the advice that is given, there are certain people on the board that have taken a right bashing about breeding and have taken it on the chin so to speak and still remain on the boards, there are those that do not answer or come back maybe because it is not what they want to here,those that are serious breeders that want to produce the best that they can possibly get, study pedigrees, get to know the stock and lines that will improve on what they have.Not just that is a handsome dog and that is a preety bitch and hope for the best, this is what the majority of breeders on here are trying to get across to the novice, at times it can be frustrating,and some do not mince there words and call a spade a spade.
"WHY BREED" these are my own thoughts and opinions,if you show your dogs and want to produce the best that you can, to keep the best of the litter to carry on your lines, working stock that are worked for the purpose for wich they were bred, to me that is the only reason for breeding, not because my family want one the same, my friends want one, the bitch needs a litter before she is spayed, the list goes on, very little thought goes into breeding, the responsability of taking back dogs that you have bred, loosing your bitch due to problems loosing the litter,having looked in the local pet superstore, have a dozen ads for g.s.d pups, no reg papers no hip score or heom done, then there are the pups of 10mths, 11mts, 12mts, g.s.d for sale through no falt of there own, inexperienced breeders and inexperienced owners.if being a bit short or as you put it sarcastic stops and makes people think twice then so be it,shouting now ALWAYS GO BACK TO WHO BRED YOUR ANIMAL, DOG,CAT, WHATEVER.regards tina

Hi Tina, Agree with you entirely. A friend of mine has been looking for a long haired GSD as a pet. Now she dosnt want to show it (obviously) all she wants is a nice natured shepherd, that has had ( and its parents) the relevant health checks done. Her first question to all the adverts has been "Have the parents been hip scored?" These are some of the answers she has recieved.......we dont believe in it, the great grandparents were.........what.......too expensive.etc. So you can imagine some of the replies when she asked if the father had been hoemaphilia(sp) tested. Why will people breed willy nilly with no thought for the pups well being, let alone the worry caused to new owners.

hi phil,
as you know also have a passion for g.s.d's, i get so upset at the amount of g.s.d. in rescues, always for sale in local papers and on notice boards in pet stores, young adolence manely dogs, and people still breed without a thought to how or where these dogs that they have bred will end up, they don't care, and they call there selfs animal lovers, i think not,there will always be the poor mugs who buy from the likes of these people because they think they are getting a bargain, think again.it's funny the breed that i have now although popular and have very high enteries at shows are difficult to get hold of, hope that is because they plan and think very carefully when breeding, other than that i have no other explenation, regards tina

Well said Tina

You have said what most of us who are responsible breeders feel.

Jayne
xxx

thank you jayne, regards tina

DOGS
but note the following.....
guest......"I need to find a stud minature pooble in the UK."
jackie h......"Errrrrrrrr. why . Or rather why are you asking us."

well she is asking because this site claims to offer helpful information...you have to admit that the answer sounded a little rude (even though I am sure it probably wasnt meant to, Jackie H:(). I really dont feel that any members should be commenting on length of membership of others, Length of membership on Champdogs is not a reflection on the quality of advice someone can offer. :(
Welcome Lobster to champdogs! :)

Thank you !!!

Lobster

lobster----bear with it :D ---i knew where you where coming from,. ----hate to say it-but if i can--!!! then most can :rolleyes:- welcome aboard!!!

Pinklilies, you have hit the nail on the head. "I need to find a stud dog" and I asked why. If the guest had said I want to know how to find a stud suitable for my bitch, I would have answered in the same way as I have load & loads of times in the past, "speak to your breeder". But that is not what we were asked, for all I know the quest may have been wanting to buy a stud dog. So I asked why. After all a sudden "need" for a stud dog is not usual. I then decided that the guest wanted a stud for a bitch and added that to my reply. We are all still quessing as to what the real request was for.
Jackie

Hi Jackie,

I do understand where you are coming from, when you explain it like that.

Sorry if I was a bit harsh!!!

Kind regards

Kelly (lobster) ;)

Help yourself, everybody else does. ;)

Lobster....the KC (In the UK) does not place stud dogs on a register.

Hi Sam,

I have been corrected on that one!!
Next time I'll make sure I know what I am talking about!

regards Kelly (lobster) ;)

yes i'm sure poeple do listen but if someone told you it's safe to put your dog in the microwave to dry them off would you take it literally there is a lot of experiance on here, and people should be more understanding!!!!!!!!!!