Hello! Has anyone had experience with being told their bitch had pyo and was not pregnant,when it was not pyo but pregnancy?

I have a Hungarian Vizsla that started spot bleeding 18 days post mating. I took her to a new vet because my vet was closed. Vet took X-rays, and bloodwork. Vet and radiologist who read xrays say probable pyo due to “uterine body mildly fluid filled”. Bloodwork is perfect. Vet prescribed antibiotics. Bleeding stopped that night.

I have a sonogram booked for day 30 with my vet. My dog is her normal self, maybe slightly more needy. I really think she is pregnant, not pyometria.

Anybody have experience?

I personally wouldn’t use a vet but someone who scans dog pregnancies/does breeding services etc for a living - most vets are rubbish at scanning and a lot can misdiagnose pyo as well as identify the bladder as a pup. The person I use has so much experience and years of knowledge and has the up to date equipment…a lot of vets don’t have the latest ultrasound tech etc.

If you’re really unsure about your vets diagnosis then definitely find someone who specialises in ultrasounds whether that be a repro vet or someone who provides breeding services (like AI, sperm analysis etc, they usually do ultrasounds too). Honestly it’s the best thing I did and mine will come to my house too which is easier and can help if your dog isn’t keen on the vets.

Hope for you and your girls sake it isn’t pyo

Thank you for the advice. I have a patient that recommended a repro vet and I’m calling then when they open in the morning. Your advice makes a lot of sense. I am having a hard time accepting the vet’s diagnosis of pyo when her labs are perfect and she is acting normal, and I’m seeing pregnancy signs.

Yes. My friend who I was mentoring saw the slight clear to white opaque discharge at around 21 days. This is in fact often an early sign of pregnancy and happens at the attachment phase.

Her vet wanted to spay her ASAP convinced it was pyo.

I told her to opt for conservative treatment, and she was put on antibiotics.

10 days later scanned with a nice size litter.

I have just had the Granddaughter of one of those pups join me.

Off topic but congratulations brainless . I am so pleased for u

I had the same problem many years ago, the vet told me she had 'an inflamed uterus' and would have to be spayed, thank goodness I ignored him as she bred 4 show champions

Thanks for the info,  it was a little bleeding, in the afternoon and very light, day 18 is was a milky reddish brown. Vet said emergency spay but I hate that he jumped to that before blood work. They also took X-rays and I’m hoping puppies will not be harmed by that.

So weird that a vet’s first leap is to spay..

Wow!! So good you didn’t listen!

I almost wonder if an embryo didn’t make the attachment and she miscarried, hence the blood.

To be fair, if it was pyo you’d definitely want the vet to move fast to spay as it can be a killer.

Right!

I used to be a work at a vet, so she went to the vet ASAP. Too many bad memories with pyo

The thing is, if it is a pregnancy and you were freaked out by your vet and agreed to spay, you'd be singing the vet's praises because they'd saved your dog's life. (You wouldn't know your dog had been pregnant.)

If it is a pyo and your vet advises not to instantly spay and things deteriorate, you could end up in a difficult situation and the vet could be liable.

Vets play it safe, don't want to risk your dog, don't have anything invested in the pregnancy, and don't want to be sued - and they also are over-trained in some things (spaying) and under-trained in others (reproductive medicine) - so you have to always keep this in mind and filter things through it.

Sonogram at my vet today.   No pyometra!!  And she is “chock full of puppies!” “Loads of puppies” the sonographer said!!

Conhrats! Good thing you didn't spay

And that there is proof that most vets don't know much about breeding....!

Should I call the first vet to let him know so if he sees this presented in the future, he might consider it?

For sure, yes!