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Topic Dog Boards / General / Forty Dogs Rescued From Farm - taken from Our Dogs this week
- By masajackrussell [gb] Date 12.02.21 15:31 UTC
Over forty dogs have been rescued from a dilapidated farm by the RSPCA.
According to the animal welfare charity the dogs, who ranged from 11 weeks to 10 years old, were suffering from poor diet, lack of shelter and parasite control.
The owner of the farm admitted that the “sheer quantity of dogs” had got “completely out of control.”
Among the breeds on the farm were German Shepherds, Collies and Huntaways, and they are all being cared for at local rescue centres.
All of the dogs were taken into care by the RSPCA and some have already found homes. However, many of them face a period of rehabilitation ahead of a forthcoming search for a home.
RSPCA inspector Gemma Cooper said, ‘These poor dogs were kept in inappropriate conditions at a dilapidated farm building in Ceredigion.
‘Thankfully, the owner worked with us and we were able to get these dogs out of this setting and into a number of different animal centres. We’re so proud we were able to rescue these dogs.
‘Some pups have already found new homes - but many of the dogs face a period of rehabilitation and care to get them ready for rehoming.
‘People keeping three breeding bitches on a premises - and breeding from those dogs three or more litters of puppies in a 12-month period - require a licence from the local authority - even if they aren’t advertising those dogs for sale.
‘It’s so important to get dogs neutered to avoid unwanted litters - and, sadly, this incident was a reminder as to how quickly things can get out of hand. The situation had just got completely out of control.
‘Fortunately, we were able to work with the owner to get these dogs into animal centres as they start their rehoming journeys.’
- By furriefriends Date 12.02.21 16:04 UTC
Yet another terrible case . Thank goodness  they have been found and hopefully at least some will beable to be rehabilitated

There needs to be more thought into how this kind of thing can be policed.
Clearly licensing isn't working here
- By masajackrussell [gb] Date 12.02.21 16:07 UTC Upvotes 4
Yes indeed. Not sure if a puppy farm or just a hoarder and no neutering but either way it needs to be addressed. No amount of legislation makes any difference if they don’t enforce the law and penalise appropriately every time.
- By Crazy dog lady [in] Date 12.02.21 16:49 UTC Upvotes 1
Sadly with animal hoarding it's a lot harder to find then unlicensed puppy Mills. Mills can be found by there puppy adverts or when someone complains to the local council about poor conditions or a sock puppy they've bought.

Hoarding is a different matter, they don't sell so no buyers to report the conditions. If there in the middle of nowhere and don't take their animals to the vets so can go on for a long time. There's probably hundreds more like this farm and not just dogs but with all animals. Sad.
- By masajackrussell [gb] Date 12.02.21 17:07 UTC Upvotes 1
Yes I'm sure it is Crazy dog lady. Such a shame isn't it. If it's hoarding then obviously penalties aren't necessary but I do hope they offer the medical assistance required in these cases as hoarding can be very debilitating to a persons life.
- By Hoggie [gb] Date 12.02.21 18:39 UTC Edited 12.02.21 18:42 UTC
Such a sorry state of affairs and hats off to the 'whistle blower' who took action!  The premises being hidden away would suggest very few would see what was going on.

The no. of different Breeds and the age range involved suggests to me that 'hoarding' is more likely to be the case here and the fact the Owners didn't protest and agreed to work with the RSPCA in removing all doesn't sound as if they were a Puppy Farm. Neither does it state the ratio of dogs to bitches.

Many people are ignorant to how our animals welfare should be priority and let their hearts rule their heads.  I've watched many a programme on TV highlighting such a situation especially amongst people who live alone.

I doubt the lack of policing of licensed premises is at fault here.  There is no mention that this establishment was licensed and just because it is within Wales (one of the few Countries who have this Law). doesn't mean every Breeder in Wales is non compliant.

All said, I am so pleased the RSPCA have taken immediate action by removing all, found homes for some and working toward homes for the otherss and have irradicated the poor wee souls suffering.  I hope the owners are prosecuted for animal cruelty and publically 'outed' for their lack of care even if it only means a ban from keeping animals in the future and makes local people aware and willing to 'whistle blow' again should they break the ban.

Good luck to all the dogs puppies involved :lol::lol::lol: X
- By furriefriends Date 12.02.21 19:48 UTC Upvotes 1
England also is one of the countries that has had licensing laws since October 2018 as I belive is Northern Ireland and Scotland
Noone is discussing non compliance  of any laws but  if it is a hoarder that person is likely to need mental health support . It won't just be a matter or at least shouldn't just be a matter of prosecution
- By Brainless [gb] Date 12.02.21 19:57 UTC Edited 12.02.21 20:01 UTC Upvotes 1
We have had licensing laws since 1973, (3 breeding bitches required a license), amended in 1999 to number of litters, (5 or more)as they counted all entire bitches over 6 months previously, and of course many entire bitches are not bred from.
The latest regulations amend the litter number to 3 or more.

None of this has prevented bad breeding.

In fact it often means the small scale breeder is needlessly inconvenienced/put off, and the volume breeders happily continue, with little oversight.

From LA perspective they are happy to get extra income from the large numbers of occasional breeders, but don't bother to regularly do anything about conditions with out of sight large scale operations.

Many show breeders happily paid for a Licence in the old days, as it was a small fee, and didn't involve lots of red tape, even though they only bred occasionaly, primarily because they had entire bitches.
- By furriefriends Date 12.02.21 20:05 UTC
Thank u for that correction and history of licencing in the uk brainless.
Very interesting to know
- By masajackrussell [gb] Date 12.02.21 20:07 UTC

> None of this has prevented bad breeding.<br /><br />In fact it often means the small scale breeder is needlessly inconvenienced/put off, and the volume breeders happily continue, with little oversight.<br /><br />From LA perspective they are happy to get extra income from the large numbers of occasional breeders, but don't bother to regularly do anything about conditions with out of sight large scale operations.


This is the problem isn't it!
- By Hoggie [gb] Date 12.02.21 21:01 UTC
Apologies:  Seems one paragraph re licensing has drowned out all other more relevant parts of the post.

> that person is likely to need mental health support . It won't just be a matter or at least shouldn't just be a matter of prosecution
I agree,one without the other would be pointless.
Topic Dog Boards / General / Forty Dogs Rescued From Farm - taken from Our Dogs this week

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