Or lack of !  (happily)

I am down in the south for a few days and normally at this time the firework season would be well underway with idiots setting them off at all times in anticipation of 5th November. I haven't heard a single firework despite being in a built upneighbourhood. It has been wonderful as one of my dogs is terrifed of them. Has anyone else noticed the same. Hope it lasts.

Jan bending:  Fireworks:  Keep enjoying the peace & quiet.  Long may it continue.!  I live in a beautiful, quiet place out in the sticks (well for 51 weeks of the year it is).  Unfortunately, I have a derelict old church building about a mile from me & the 'hippy colony' from the nearest seaside town use it to celebrate Guy Fawkes & other things I'm sure. It's like something out of the 'Wicker Man' Film if anyone else is old enough to remember that? so at the end of this month the fireworks etc will start here:  with dogs. cats, horses, sheep. cattle & chickens, it is a nightmare.

The first lot of the season were set off last night at 10.45pm which is early for round here. I have a horrible suspicion that it’ll be worse than usual this year as there are no big organised events taking place so people will have them at home. I was hoping for fewer as so many people are struggling financially but it seems folk still have more money than sense.

I heard one last night but thank god it was just one. Im dreading it as both hubby and my girl hate them. Hubbys ears become very painful around this time when fireworks go off. So kiaras in her crate to keep calm and hubby walks round with ear muffs on.

Sarakingsley:  Fireworks: Oh Sara, you just made me laugh out loud!  I now have a vision in my head of your Dog & Hubby! Lifted my day - thanks!!! (sorry Hubby suffers pain though)...

Glad to be of service Hoggie. He hates it he gets so embarrassed of walking around the house with ear muffs on even though im the only one here to see him.

He has hyperacusis which is why hes in pain. Kiara Still worrys me the most as she can end up vomiting she gets that scared. Ive tried all sorts but nothing works. Ive tried staying in the country yet everywere we end up staying theres fireworks.

I wish the government would stop selling to the puplic and put a ban on fireworks and only make it legal only for the shows they do for bonfire night and new year only.

Sarakingsley:  Fireworks. Soz Sara.  I was thoughtless.    I build a 'den' in my extension to the house with toys & lots of water bowls around.  I have 4 girls in the house at the moment & I play really loud music.  Bonus is I can sing & dance without embarassment and no one hears (just as well).  I do find it distracts though.  The radio is on constantly in my outside kennels so just gets turned up louder. (just had a thought - maybe more noise comes from my etsablishmemt than the Hippy party at the Old Church) - oops!) Every animal that can be inside my out buildings are but it is a real worry if this goes on for any length of time.
Absolutely agree that a Fire works ban is the only way ahead.  Is there no increased amount of medication that would help your Husband's ear problems just for this short space of time?  If not maybe a set of macho head phones such as air craft people wear can look rather fetching and may save his blushes.

Hoggie- vet has tried a few , i also have tried a few from pets at home and online but no use.

I dont think your thoughtless, i struggle to not laugh even though i feel bad for laughing i just cant help it.

There is no med that helps him and no cure.

He tends to sit in my car as he finds it really quiet in there more than the house. I have an audi E-Tron.

He even had to stop doing the job he loves which was being a dog groomer because of the condition. high pitch barks or the yappy dogs that came in hurt his ears. He owns the salon though so he just does the business side of things now mostly from home.

Although hes sending me crazy keep playing christmas music. Its the one thing he gets excited about is christmas. Too early for me. I wait till after bonfire night has gone which im always happy when its gone

Even though mine aren't scared, just bark at them, though one has become stone deaf.

I hadn't realised, but am delighted not to have heard any yet.

I only moved here just over a year ago, and they were not too bad.

Back in Bristol they were awful from October to February.

Sarakingsley:  Fireworks: That's awful especially when it robbed him of his profession Re your little dog Keira: Have you tried the 'plug in' calming fragrances similar to the one that is useful for cats?  I haven't used either but maybe check out on line - I would imagine it is similar to Lavendar for humans. Christmas! I can imagine how irritating that is in Oct/Nov.  Maybe stock up on the Lavendar too. On a serious note, I hope you all get through this horrible situation unscathed.  Best of Luck X

Hoggie- tried the plug ins. Nope , only thing works is me being there with her she calms a little. I walk very early as well to avoid the fireworks.

Its not just dogs that fireworks upset but there dangerous, round here teenagers buy them off adults or get an older friend to buy them and then throw them at the police. Which is very dangerous.

I wish we could force the govermant to ban them.

Sarakingsley: Probably something we all have to put up with until legislation changes.  So difficult.  They are very dangerous & what worries me more is that according to an interview I heard the other night, people are now talking about having indoor Fireworks.  Someone posted earlier that 'the world has gone nuts!'.  It surely has....especially when kids are so out of control and the authorities have very little power. over their actions  Sorry I have run out of ideas but keep yourselves out of harms way and just keep cuddling up to little Keara.  Hubby will just have to keep Michael 'Bubbly' as I call him on loud speak bless him!

Sarakingsly, have you tried skullcap and valerian? It did help one of my previous dogs a bit

Tried valerian not tried skullcap I'll give that a try thanks Jodi

Our local bonfire society has cancelled for this year. They are very regretful about this, they spend all year organising it and attending other local bonfire societies' festivities. To be fair they do raise some money for local charities. But I'm very happy and so are my dogs!

Damn fireworks going off here

I got hubby in the dinning room with his muffs on reading a book and kiara in her crate shaking.

Im calmly talking to here and reassuring her.

I wish they'd just go away

Sarakingsley: Fireworks Oh Goodness Sara. Is Kiara's cage covered?  Can you sit with her inside the covering too? Is Kiara very close with your Hubby.  I know it sounds daft but maybe he could get under the 'den' with you aswell?  Our dogs 'worry' about us when we are not there so maybe all together would help? Damn Fireworks!!!

Yes the crate is covered Hoggie, hubby has back issues too so cant get in the crate or bend down to her and hes more focused on distracting himself from the pain in his ears.

I stay with her and am in the crate with her as its a huge crate we have for her when the fireworks go off.

The UK Parliament will be debating the Petition (Ban fireworks for general sale to the public) on 2nd November 2020. Here's hoping ..

Ive got my fingers crossed that they ban them. Please do one thing right and ban them and let our dogs be free of the unnecessary stress rhey cause

It's not just pets, livestock and horses, and wildlife even more so too.

> The UK Parliament will be debating the Petition (Ban fireworks for general sale to the public) on 2nd November 2020. Here's hoping ..

Admin do you know if it was debated today? As i cant find anything on it

Looks like it's too early to see . Accurate information will be available from 6 am tomorrow  as per Hansard

Thanks furriefriends, if they have banned them it will be on the news wont it?

I guess so if its considered important enough. 
Personnaly i can't see a total ban more like a restrictions to the gp.
They are certainly available now.as somesome is.letting them near me

When i said ban i meant a ban on the General puplic using them. I hope they do ban them the general public, some horrible kids were setting them off in the road outside here and they were aiming them at a cat.

Luckily a neighbor must have phoned the police as they ran off when the police arrived and the poor cat had to be taken to a vet.

I hate fireworks but if they are still allowed would prefer displays only doing them

They have been going offt here in West Wiltshire since last week, despite the rain.

Had a flyer end of last week for a new firm selling them on-line, free delivery to about a 50 mile radius, seem to have very little restrictions on who can buy, no mention on required distance between them and people or buildings and they have about 10/12 packs of big to huge 'barrage' set and only 1 set of 'pretty' ones should ban sale to public or at least restrict it to 'golden fountain etc' ones.

Well as expected the 'hippy' partygoers at the derelict church down the hill from me arrived Sunday night.  Vehicles churning up the adjacent fields, several bonfires lit. despite horrendous rain fall and the music full blast.  Fireworks of every description went off into the early hours. Same last night from around 9pm and no doubt every night this week especially Thursday.  No point in complaining to the police - they won't come out this far into the sticks especially if it is wet. So as long as this continues it's all sheep, cattle & horses inside buildings with Radio on high and all dogs, one cat and 2 chickens in garage/utility attached to the house with own choice of music on high. Oh the joys of country living have certainly taken a turn for the worse! Hope a ban is imminent but sadly too late for this years Guy Fox Celebrations!

If I have understood correctly the fireworks debate has been done and no changes are imminent .
Someone correct.me if I am.wrong

I suppose the only chance of a change is if Boris’s dog is terrified of fireworks

furriefriends:  No changes imminent: My goodness.  I can't confirm your findings yet but disappointed if this is the case.  I can guarantee there will be at least one ambulance called to the hippy camp (further down the hill from me as previously posted) meaning some poor person in need or urgent medical help will have to wait. FIREWORKS . think one should have been put up Guy Fawkes back side before he hatched the gunpowder plot and saved us all centuries of heartache!  and there would have been no ambulance for him either!

Fully agree hoggie , i have never understand why we celebrate a man who wanted to blow up parliament and murder a lot of people.

I hope one day something is done to ban them to the general puplic or someone creates silent fireworks.

Bernermom; Fireworks: Exactly, he would be viewed as a terrorist nowadays! Silent fireworks would be the answer but on a lighter note, in my situation with all my guys inside tonight, I wish someone would invent silent 'Farts never mind Fireworks' and smell free ones too - and no it's not me! hee hee

Just to be pedantic:) we arnt celebrating guy fawkes and what  he tried to do but we are celebrating that it failed. 
That is why we have a.bonfire with an effigy of.him on it.

My personal view ? They have always.scared me.  As a child.i would watch from a distance hiding behind my parents and I am no better now

Interesting furriefriends , does everyone celebrate because he failed? I always thought it was because he tried to kill MPs?

They have always scared me too, i jump everytime i hear a firework. There pretty to look but thats it.

Furriefriends> Apologies.  Obviously didn't pay enough attention in History class!

The origin was because he didn't succeed
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night    its rather long and complicated
Yep he would.now be considered a terrorist but doubt his punishment would be the same .
Sorry definitely off topic

Not had time to look at it properly but found this:

First Special Report

On 5 November 2019, the Petitions Committee published its First Report of Session 2019, on Fireworks (HC 103). The response from the Government was received on 13 March 2020 and is appended below.

Including: "Recommendation: While people who want to ban the public from buying and using fireworks have valid concerns that must be addressed, we cannot support a ban before other, less drastic but potentially more effective, options have been fully explored."

Government Response to Petitions Committee Report on Fireworks

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-11-02/debates/F982D230-02C0-4A8B-8A60-D0C51F952944/Fireworks 

https://hansard.parliament.uk/search?searchTerm=fireworks&partial=False    

these are transcipts of the debate on 2nd nov 2020

Sounds like there’s pretty much universal support for change but given how often it’s been debated and Jacob Rees-Moggs attitude I’m not holding my breath.

Anyone seen Matt's cartoon in the Telegraph?

https://twitter.com/MattCartoonist/status/1324063747623837696?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Here we go again....

It woukd be good if they at the very least banned the puplic from using fireworks outside of bonfire and new years eve. At least if they were only allowed to set them off twice a year and no more that wont be as bad. The problem is people set them of days even weeks before and after bonfire night.

Normally here they dont go off till after 6pm but there already going off here.

Fireworks being set off here in Liverpool over the past week. I would be happy if it were displays only.

Bernermom:  Fireworks only on Bonfire Night & New Year's Eve: It would be a starting point for the Government to consider then it wouldn't be seen as a complete ban.
Hippy Camp Fireworks & Music from the nearby derelict church are now on night 5 here - oh joy again!  Think my lovely dogs are fed up with the old 80's classics I play to drown out the noise, bless. It is horrendous though and I wish Reece-Mogg who one poster mentioned previously would actually realise the stress & upset it causes to our animals!  Maybe animal lovers should subject he & Boris to a NIGHTLY bombardment of fireworks EXCEPT for Bonfire Night & NYE??? Off thread - sorry - but what does Reece-Mogg actually do? I know what he looks like but never have I seen him stand up for anything???

That makes 2 of us Hoggie dont know what he does either.

Its still not great for our animals to endure it even on 2 nights the year but its a start as you say better then days or weeks of it

Watch the debate HERE

Well two seperate incidents of near misses due to fireworks posted on a breed facebook group.  As a breed most are not over sensitive, most react by barking rather than fear.

The first, in Yorkshire rural area.

Neighbour knocked on door, dog took off when a loud barrage went off.

Owner in slippers had to chase her, and only caught her when she stopped to pee.

Another walking her puppy was pulled into road in front of oncoming car when someone let off a very loud firework in front garden of busy London street.

The owner managed to roll them both out of way, but needed stitches!!!

This was before it was fully dark.

Fireworks:  I have just watched the debate provided by CD Admin (thank you) and can't help feeling that apart from the first three speakers, those following & the Chair were only giving 'lip service' to the whole debate. My oh my is this ever going to be taken seriously?  The injuries our NHS have to deal with. the rediculous actions of the irresponsible and the 'deaf ear' thrown to the whole sorry state of affairs is unbelievable. The Dogs Trust, The Cats League, War Veterans and the Mentally Ill were all active in putting forward their petition statements with no clarity or clue as to the next step.  Sickening IMO.

My menagerie doesn’t seem that bothered but I feel terrible for all the animals and people who are scared or made uncomfortable by them.

If it was just two nights a year it wouldn’t be so bad, as you could plan for it better. But nope, it basically goes on for months with no rhyme or reason as to when people set them off.

It’s not like you can sedate your dog every night from the end of October til the new year just in case. :(

The only advantage for me is that the first night they go off is usually fairly sporadic and quiet, which gives my rabbits a chance to get used to the noise again without being overwhelmed (they live inside and I play music, but they always get a bit upset at first).

I’d totally prefer it if sales to the general public were banned, and displays restricted to the 5th and/or the nearest weekend.