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hi, i have a 3 year old dachshund who I am looking to breed from. I have done my research and she has been PRA tested. She is a carrier so I have found a stud who is clear. Myself and the studs owner have met a few times before now.
Willow is day 13 from first day I noticed blood. I have taken her to the stud on day 7, 9, 11, 12 and we are going today.
She is mounting my collie bitch and my arm and feet constantly and flagging. She has today backed up to my collie bitch and lifted tail. However up to now she is allowing the stud to lick her and will flag however he hadnt attempted to mount until last night when he was nosing her along her back and on her neck and he did mount her but she snapped at him. She didn't move away. Is this just because she isn't ready yet. Her vulva isn't as swollen as it was during blood. Thanks in advance
By Jeangenie
Date 07.10.20 11:08 UTC
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It sounds as if she's only just ovulating; blood testing earlier in her season would have pinpointed this and saved you all those fruitless trips to the stud dog! I assume that the dog's sired previous litters and so knows when the best time is to mate? Usually days 12 and 14, or 13 and 15, are ideal dates for mating, but all bitches are different - some ovulate earlier and some later. As your bitch is a maiden she'll probably need you to hold her steady when the dog mounts so that she doesn't pull away at the critical moment.
I did think that was the case. Happy to visit stud, they are very local. He is also a first timer but I am happy he knows what to do and when as on the first visits he didnt really even acknowledge she was there but as the visits have gone on he is showing more interest and as I said he did mount last night.
Hopefully today may be more successful.
It's very common for first-time bitches to snap even if the timing is right. It can hurt and it's a shock. You will need to hold her steady by the collar so that she can't reach him and so he can finish... Otherwise, if she snaps at him it can put him off and he won't mate her even if the timing is right and will stop trying. An experienced stud will be able to ignore her and continue, but often an inexperienced stud will be put off by a difficult bitch.
Which is why it's not a good idea to use two dogs which have never mated before, together. It is best to use an experienced stud on a maiden bitch.
By MamaBas
Date 07.10.20 12:08 UTC
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Unless there's any chance there has been penetration, I'd switch your plans and go to an experienced male. Her snapping at him could well put a novice male off and it's not kind to continue - especially if the dog is to become a stud dog who is attracting more than your interest. How about using his sire? I'd want both partners to find this first time an easy experience.
I am at the stud now and he is mounting and thrusting but not penetrating. She is allowing licking but snapping when he mounts. I'm guessing she isnt quite ready ??
Have been to the stud this afternoon and he mounted and was thrusting but was not penetrating her but she wasn't standing, she snapped at him and sat down. I was holding her head and reassuring her. This didn't put him off at all he tried 3 times. Is this a sign she still isn't ready ?
I am looking for a short notice available local stud instead

Is that wise ? To find a stud who has all.correct health tests and is complimentary to her lines at short notice and also.is local to very hard .
Would it not be better to wait until her next season and in the meanwhile research an experienced sire who fits those requirements and hopefully the owner will be knowledgable to assist. Mamabas makes good points
I have a list of studs that are suitable with tests done. I havent started this process without doing my research and bred a collie successfully 10 years ago.
Just different with different breeds and was looking for friendly advise. Mine has also had all the relevant tests done

Finding an alternative at short notice. Testing apart ..... I had to do this when the dog I wanted apparently just HAD to have a digital cyst removed just when my girl came into season. I'd phoned his owner as soon as my bitch came in, to be told this (idiot woman insisted it had to be done then, with Crufts coming up!). I had to go elsewhere (bit awkward having to admit their dog was 'second choice'!!!). Pity really although the dog I used was a nice boy - his only fault was he wasn't the most outgoing boy, and neither was my bitch. The dog I wanted was absolultely bomb-proof but it wasn't to be. That breeder bred my still sadly missed Frankie btw.
The thing is, without progesterone testing you can't really know if her behaviour is because she isn't ready, or because she is a maiden. It could very well be that she isn't ready yet.
I'd suggest getting a progesterone test run at the vet which should tell you where she is as far as ovulation goes, and then you know whether to wait a bit longer or to really press things by stopping her from turning around and sitting down.
Most reluctant bitches, if the timing is right, once the male is in, will stand and let him finish and won't continue to react or protest. Whereas a bitch who's at the wrong time or not ready may well continue to protest - however it's too late by that point and you're essentially forcing her when she's not ready. So in order to know which way to go with things, I'd suggest getting a progesterone test done ASAP.
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