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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Puppy Crate
- By Peter57 [gb] Date 21.11.18 11:32 UTC
What size of crate should I get for a collie pup I read somewhere that a 36 inch would be big enough also what size harness should I get is a medium size harness big enough.
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 21.11.18 12:00 UTC
Don't know about crate but if you buy a harness that fits for a pup you will almost certainly have to buy another when it is adult.
- By Peter57 [gb] Date 21.11.18 12:06 UTC
Is Medium size harness big enough for a border collie pup it goes of its chest size i dont have the pup yet so cant measure the chest we are just getting tbings we need for the puppy when we get him or her.
- By furriefriends Date 21.11.18 12:30 UTC
I would wait until u have pup as a harness needs to fit properly to avoid any soreness and damage to joints  . Have a look at perfect fit harnesses they will help I get the right size and swap any bits that dont fit first time . It's likely that u will be buying more than one as he grows anyway .same with collars .don't forget u also need a tag to go on His collar or harness to comply with the law when he is out and about. As well.as changing microchip into your name. Crates I go for.the biggest I can fit in my kitchen from the beginning.so at least 36  to use when adult even if only as his den . I think the one I have for my flat coat who is a similar size to a border is 48 inches .  Have a look on eBay I got a couple of good ones in there for next to nothing .  You could of course buy small to start and another later especially if u intend to have your pup near your bed
- By Peter57 [gb] Date 21.11.18 12:36 UTC
How to you change the microchip in your name and does the vet charge for name change.
- By Tommee Date 21.11.18 13:33 UTC
The puppy will come with the paperwork to transfer the chip into your name. The first transfer is free if done within 14 days I believe
- By Wait Ok Date 21.11.18 14:26 UTC
"Microchip Central", charge the new owner for the first ownership change.
It all depends on who the microchip suppliers are that the vets have used.
- By Tommee Date 21.11.18 14:36 UTC Upvotes 1
Not ALL puppies are chipped by vets there are 100s of microchippers & most use Petlog compatible chips. The transfer paperwork will explain, Petlog don't charge for transfer of new puppies
- By furriefriends Date 21.11.18 14:43 UTC Upvotes 1
I know u said u don't want to show or work your dog but when buying that doesn't mean breeders who breed for showing or other dog  activities should be ignored . they are the very ones u should look at. as it's about how the dogs are bred not  so much what u want to do with it that u need to look at especially for a pet .
A responsible breeder should health test  dam and sire and be knowledgeable about their lines . Microchipping and offering free pet insurance is also a good sign . Those that don't I would be very worried about
I am not very knowledgeable on BC but I know others here are and will be able to tell u anything specific to the breed .check for example what health test should have been done before mating
- By cambria Date 21.11.18 17:27 UTC
You need to change microchip over and if the pup is kc reg when you pay to change the registration over to your name the microchip is then free for change of ownership.

As for harness no point getting one until you have the pup and can measure it. Just have a soft collar abd lead to start with. Perfect fit harnesses are very good but you need to measure the dog first to get the correct size
- By JeanSW Date 21.11.18 18:39 UTC Upvotes 2
I've never needed to crate a BC.  I have a dog bed by the side of my bed at night so that I can let pup out to wee when I hear him get restless.  If I need to leave the pup for a short period during the day then he is in the kitchen.
- By Peter57 [gb] Date 21.11.18 18:59 UTC
We have only a small kitchen so that might not be ideal  we thought about the crate in case we need to go out for a certain amount of time and we didn't want him getting separation anxiety and so he  or she won't chew the furniture we have thought about getting another crate for the bedroom but if the pup will feel ok in a bed we might try that.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 22.11.18 08:33 UTC
I have always bought a 36" crate which should last into adulthood, if/when needed by then.   I don't do small crates = less likelihood to empty in there because fact is if a puppy is left in a crate too long, he will empty as and when he feels the need, and not be able to get away from the mess = lie in it.   Ewww.   Being in a crate won't stop 'separation anxiety' btw.   It will keep him out of danger and mischief however.  

Can't help re a harness as I have never used them.   For me, a harness (non pull ones apart) is what's used for a pulling dog.
- By furriefriends Date 22.11.18 08:43 UTC
If u are going to use a crate and I am one who does make sure u find out how to crate train .some people assume and I am not saying u are one   that a dog can be popped in a rate with door shut when u decided .
.it is far more complicated than that to have a happy dog who sees their crate as their den regardless of if door is open or shut.  Crate can be put anywhere that is comfortable for u and the dog not necessarily the kitchen .
Regards harnesses mamabas I agree . Without the two attachments one on chest or  side and one on the  back harnesses can turn your dog into a sled dog pulling u along .u need to learn how to use them properly   As previously said they should however be used along with training to walk to heel so the harness becomes more of a safety measure for the unexpected .
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.11.18 09:12 UTC
A 30inch would be big enough for a collie. 

My breed is same size but has prick ears so generally we use 36inch for the extra height, but can happily fit two in comfortably, but use a 30 inch at a pinch and they have to stoop a little to not have their ears out the top..
- By Peter57 [gb] Date 22.11.18 10:00 UTC
Can the 30 in be used for travel and for when he gets bigger.
- By Peter57 [gb] Date 22.11.18 10:24 UTC
So you suggest a soft collar for the puppy also I have looked into crate training, what do you suggest for when I go to pick up the puppy I was thinking of a pet carrier.
- By satincollie (Moderator) Date 22.11.18 11:21 UTC Upvotes 1
I would go for a 36 inch crate if you are thinking of having a male and yes a soft collar for a puppy.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.11.18 15:00 UTC

> Can the 30 in be used for travel and for when he gets bigger.


Yes
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 22.11.18 15:31 UTC Edited 22.11.18 15:35 UTC

> Can the 30 in be used for travel and for when he gets bigger.


This is a bit like how long is a piece of string - whether it will be ok when he's adult/mature depends on how big he'll get :grin:   Again my adult Whippet uses one of the old 36" crates but once curled up, only takes up about 1.8th of the area ..... but she does need the height when standing.  when we picked up both our Whippet and then our current Basset, we had the crate they'd use, in the car.  Obviously for the Whippet, the 36" crate was well big!   I wanted them travelling in crates in the car, from the get-go.   Much safer than having them on a lap.   My husband sat in the back with her, alongside on one side of the split seats we have in the back, so the crate was virtually alongside him.  She was only 9 weeks at the time.  Our Basset was older (4 months) when he came to us so we had both in separate crates in the back.
- By furriefriends Date 22.11.18 15:56 UTC
You could get a crate made for the car.moving crates in and out of car is a really pain and ones that are fitted are less likely to move around and safer in an accident. good quality 30 inch crates are pretty heavy too
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