Hi

I'm posting on behalf of my daughter again, after she went to crufts to meet the flat coated retriever they ( my daughter and her tow children)  actually came away from crufts in love with another breed , the Euraiser, from everything the people in discover dogs said and then speaking to the society and other Euraiser owners they all feel the Euraiser is for them, I just wanted to know if anyone on here knows anything about them or has any experience?

I had one stay at our holiday cottage, huge amount of coat, friendly and good with the kids but apparently rather hard to train although it was their first dog and they weren't very firm with him. They do have health conditions that they need testing for and can be noisy which is a bit of a Spitz trait, their correct name is Eurasier, not trying to be picky but breeders do notice these things.

Thanks for the reply, everything you said rings true with what she has been told apart from the barking she was told there not as barky as other spritz breeds and everything she has read on them also says there a quiet breed.

I briefly looked at them.When deciding on my breed, a friend considered them too. What put us off was we read that some could have a more chow temperament who not be very good with other dogs. Beautiful looking dogs though.

The society told us that there are a lot of bad breeders in the breed and that we should only go for breeders who are approved by the society as a true Eurasier should not be more like  a chow or more like a Samoyed a Eurasier should only have the temperament of a Eurasier and that's why you should only look at breeders who are approved by the society.

As the breeds origins are Chow, Samoyed and Wolf Spitz/Keeshond and the breed is fairly new, then you will get dogs with tendencies more to one of the founding breeds than the others.

Samoyeds and Keeshond temperaments are what you really want, but they are the noisier input, and the chows are your more taciturn. Chow temperaments can be not as pleasant.

So you can get the odd iffier Eurasier and some noisier.

I would have had one had they been in the UK when I lost my Belgian Shepherd in 1992, but went for the Elkhound, which has been established here since 1870's, a bit smaller, not as hairy, but only in wolf grey.

There is an event coming up shortly called Spitz in the Park, well worth attending as somewhere to see all the Spitz breeds

HuskyGal  had a Eurasier but not sure if she still visits this forum. If she does she may well be able to give you some information about the breed.

We were all set on getting a Keeshond untill we went to Crufts and heard the howl. We knew we could not live with it so we were so glad we had gone.

Have you looked into Lapphund? I don't know any, personally, but they're a Spitz i think are versatile and less vocal?

Lapphunds are also very vocal, I know this from experience
I find my Japanese Spitz less vocal compared to my kees, tend to only bark if they "spot" something and they're coat is more manageable to groom. Eurasiers are lovely, and the ones I've met aren't as gobby as the kees

Spitz breeds are easy to train, they're massive foodies who are eager to please and respond best to positive reinforcement as they can be sensitive, yet stubborn

Owning up to 6 Elkhounds in a suburban house, whose job is to bark once they have their prey at bay, it is easy enough to work with the tendency to vocalise with appropriate training.

From puppyhood if they open their mouths outside they get sent in, simple.

Can't abide noisy dogs, and of course they are supposed to track silently and only bark to let the hunter know where they are. So even in their homeland a needlessly gobby one isn't appreciated.