apart from Wormcount. is there another place to test poo sample of dogs for worm/eggs/

feclab or westlab  both good

thank you

do these folk sent out containers ext the way worm count do?

Why not get your vet to send a stool sample off to be tested and then prescribe what's needed?  And get him to check for protozoa - Giardia is more around than I'd realised.   Ditto Coccidia.

Yes just the same as worm count .I have heard a few prefer feclab to worm count as the kit they send is better.just check they are all testing for u want. I must say I have always found worm count very transparent and helpful if haven't questions

Vet worm count are very expensive compared with these labs unless u are looking g for something extra that isn't covered in worm count tests.i know if speak to them they will advise if they can't do something or think vetos better I have seen a couple of cases when they directed people to their vet. it does depend on what fedup is really looking for

I don't need the 'middle man' I can send off myself. I have done wormcount for years. never had a positive result. just want to use someone different now. Yes Giardia is around more these days. I see lots of pups at my training class with this.

> Yes Giardia is around more these days. I see lots of pups at my training class with this.

fenbendazole (Panacur) is used to treat Giardia. It's a Protozoa that lives in rank water.

When our current Basset, who came to us at 4 months WITH Giardia!! was given Panacur, it didn't work.   He had to have Metronidazole before we started getting clear fecal tests.

Giardia and campylobactor can't be tested by wormcount. This needs to be done by the vet if in house or they send by courier to the company who do test for them.

Ditto to MamaBas - Panacur didn't work getting rid of giardia for us either.  Had to use metronidazole.

I sent mine down to Langford.

I am not needing testing for Giardia. the OP was simply to find another lab to test rather than wormcount

has anyone used Verm-x as a wormer?

It is not effective.  I tried it many years ago and my dogs ended up with tapeworm.

Please don't mess around if you've got a bitch with pups, worm the pups at 2-3wks with an effective veterinary wormer.  Honestly, sometimes I think the world has gone completely bonkers.  I am not an advocate of always doing what vets say and I try to avoid excessive use of vaccinations and preventative medications and I definitely don't use either as much as my vets would have me, but I get very frustrated when some people want to stop using vaccines or preventatives altogether.  I do think some people have forgotten what life was like before we had wormers or vaccinations and some of the awful conditions and health related issues which dogs suffered from.  If you want your pups to thrive, please ensure they are wormed at 2-3 weeks after birth and then as recommended by the wormer you use, and please use an approved veterinary wormer.  There is an appropriate middle ground to steer between drowning a dog in pesticides and chemicals and vaccines and using absolutely nothing...

Don't keep asking the same question in 55000 different ways, in many different threads, because you want to hear specific answers and not others....!

Sorry for the rant, maybe I just got out the wrong side of bed.

& there was me thinking tapeworm were caught by dogs eating infected fleas, but nope caught by using Vermx. I do hope you informed the manufacturer. Used it for years on my stock & dogs, will have to rethink now. Thanks for the heads up

Please do not jump down peoples  throats because they as for others opinions. I am perfectly happy to listen to other folk opinions. however not to be spoken to like I am some sort of idiot. who mentioned Vaccinations? next time please don't comment on my posts. maybe you should just stay in bed !

Thank you for your reply Tommee

Tommee, if Vermx is an effective wormer, it should treat tapeworm.  It has nothing to do with how it is contracted.  And, by the way, only one type of tapeworm is contracted via fleas... there are several others.

fedup - a responsible and reputable breeder will worm pups before they go to new homes.  Feel free to read the guidelines for reputable breeders written by your breed organisation, or by the KC Accredited Breeder Scheme or by any other organisation purporting to be best practice for raising puppies.

Your tirade inferred that because you used Vermx your dogs ended up with tapeworms. I know of dogs whose owners stick with chemical wormers who have had tapeworms & round worms afterward, probably because the chemical had left their systems & they then became infected but maybe not.

Just because YOU prefer modern methods of treating YOUR animals doesn't mean we so have to follow YOUR beliefs. As for vaccinations why do vaccinated dogs still DIE from the diseases they are meant to be protected from ?

onetwothreefour, where have you read I am not worming pups? the mother is being treated. just because ihe treatment isn't what you want using you should not judge. I have sent weekly samples off since wk one, result..... no worms....... no eggs. when there is, I shall act on what I want...not what others think/dictate. Just because someone worms with chemical wormer they think there dog is clear of worms. without testing poo sample they do not know. same with vaccines. if someone titre tests they know there dog is immune or not. people that vaccinate have no idea. I have known dogs vaccinated and still get distemper ect. some also die.  people should not be so judgemental/dictorial

fedup, you clearly don't understand how roundworms are transmitted during pregnancy from the mother to the pups.  The majority of dogs carry roundworm eggs encysted in their bodies when they are not pregnant.  These will stay dormant until the hormones of pregnancy activate them and they will then be transmitted to the pups, without showing up in a stool sample from the mother because they are not passed in her stool, they are transmitted to the fetus.

Honestly, this is what happens when people make stuff up

You said in another post that you've never wormed the mother - not even when she came into season - so it is very likely that she will transmit roundworm eggs to puppies.  By the time you even detect these in puppy stools, they will be 3 weeks old and have lived with parasites for the first 3 weeks of their lives, when they are trying to thrive and when things can hang in the balance.

I'm done on this thread, I've tried to pass on best practice and what is considered best practice by just about every dog organisation anywhere.  You can want things to be other than how they are, but unfortunately they are not that way.

Tommee, I've no idea what vaccinations have to do with this.  When I tried to mention them several posts ago, I was told that the OP wasn't saying anything about vaccinations.  So please don't bring them up, because you can't have it both ways...