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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Inherited health problems
- By PAULDHI [gb] Date 09.01.17 21:14 UTC
I am looking to find a pedigree puppy to be part of our family, but I am concerned about inherited health problems through in line breeding
Typically JKD, which can not be tested for
How can I find a reputable breeder that does not allow in line breeding
Can anybody help me
Thanks
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 09.01.17 22:10 UTC Upvotes 2
What breed do you have in mind?

Remember that unrelated individuals can still carry the same recessive conditions; the more separate individuals in the ancestry can mean the more possibility of inadvertently doubling up.
- By PAULDHI [gb] Date 09.01.17 22:36 UTC
Hi Jeangenie,
I'm looking for a Boxer dog in the Yorkshire region
I just want to make sure my puppy is from healthy stock
and is well cared for
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 09.01.17 23:25 UTC Upvotes 1
First you want to make sure the parents of the litter have been health tested for the conditions that can be tested for with for boxers would be hip scoring and heart testing. As for JKD there is apparently a urine specific gravity screening that can be done on puppies over 8 weeks and adults. You could ask breeders if the screen their adults and pup with it although I do not know how common it is done as I cant find mention of it on the boxer breed council page for JKD.
http://www.boxerjkd.com/uk-screening-recommendations.html
http://www.boxerbreedcouncil.co.uk/jkd.html

You will want to find a breeder who knows the lines behind the litter. As there is no genetic test breeders will have to rely on knowledge of the dogs behind the parents and their relatives to try to avoid breeding two dogs with a high inserdence of it directly behind them.
- By PAULDHI [gb] Date 09.01.17 23:43 UTC
Hi Jo
Thanks for some good advice, and the links are very helpful
- By chaumsong Date 10.01.17 06:13 UTC

> Remember that unrelated individuals can still carry the same recessive conditions; the more separate individuals in the ancestry can mean the more possibility of inadvertently doubling up


Absolutely, I met a poodle x jack russel at the weekend who was blind, PRA :mad: The owner thought buying a cross would be healthier, presumably the breeder didn't bother testing parents.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 10.01.17 09:00 UTC

> I am concerned about inherited health problems through in line breeding


Don't be.   Most breeders line-breed but equally most breeders make sure that they only use 'the best'.    It's inbreeding, the closest form of linebreeding that you have to be concerned about.   Matings like mother to son, father to daughter and sibling to sibling.   And even then, much as as far as I'm aware still, the KC won't accept registrations from such close breeding, provided there are no serious problems in the background, it doesn't need to be a total disaster.

If breeders are line-breeding they are fixing type, for starters and as such, that isn't anything to be avoided.    Outcrossing, which is needed at variouis points in a breeding programme, can have problems - when two lines are brought together, the resulting puppies can be an 'unknown' which is why you get the best of the best, but equally so often, the worst of the worst.   In other words, outcrossing can be a lottery. 

You should be concerned about health problems of course, but provided you find a reputable breeder, you shouldn't be unduly concerned.   Good breeders don't set out to produce cripples - find one via the relevant Breed Club and I'd go for somebody who only breeds for their next generation.   That way you'll benefit from all the research and care that breeder has put into each litter they produce because they will be striving to improve with every generation - not just in it to make money!
- By PAULDHI [gb] Date 10.01.17 11:02 UTC
Hi Jo, thanks for the advice and links,
its all very helpful
Regards
Paul
- By PAULDHI [gb] Date 10.01.17 11:10 UTC
Hi mamabas
Thanks for your response, your advice will help me
a great deal
Regards
Paul
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