So I had a mate stay with us for a little bit her boy got over my girl and that was 4 weeks ago and there was never any talk about any fees or anything till today she has just told me I now owe her money for stud fee when she hasn't said anything about it petite I now and it wasn't arranged mating, they had no where els to go so we took them in. So I'm just wondering do I own her money or not? I personally think I don't but I would just like to know pleas and thank you

As it's an accidental unwanted maiting/pregnancy I'd say technically no you don't owe them anything as there was no agreement.

How did their dog get to your girl? If it was because of something you did (ie you forgot and let them both out) I can see why they may be annoyed and asking about a fee now as they may feel you did it in purpose to get a free stud. But if it was nothing to do with you I'd inform them about all the added cost their male will be costing you to care for mother and pups.

Is your girl definitely in whelp? I believe at this stage you could still terminate the pregnancy if it was an accidental mating. You could ask your friend to pay for this instead.

He got to my girl cuz they had no where els to go as they lost their house and we gave them and their dog a place to stay and I didn't realise my girl was on heat I thought she already had it but turns out she hadn't it was just a mistake but they where both in my yard 24-7

It was an accident but I will not make her get rid of it I have considered it but I just couldn't do it but after this litter she is desexed and the owner of the boy dog won't be paying for anything I am paying for all the pups they just want a fee now

I think you are both as responsible as one another. Did no one notice during the 24/7 that the dogs were shut in your garden that they were mating ? if not then how do you know she was in season and he mated her ? if you did notice then why did you leave them to get on with it and not separate them and have your girl jabbed right away ?
Your friend is out of order to expect  a stud fee and you must take the blame for not knowing your bitch was in season.
I think you are pretty even with the finances

I see it says you are in Australia. Are your bitch and dog the same breed? If yes, I presume you need her agreement if you want to register any puppies. If you are going to make a profit from any litter than you should offer a stud fee once the litter is here.

Legally you owe them no stud fee as there was no contract written or verbal.

I will not make her get rid of it

I doubt she'd care if your vet gave her a little injection to abort the litter, a lot less dangerous and stressful than putting her through whelping, do you know what you are doing? Many a bitch and whelps lose their lives in the hands of the clueless.

I also do not understand your hostile reaction to your friends request of a stud fee if you continue, which is generally the price of a pup or a standard price for the breed. They sound very hard up, it was an accident, so if you continue, why not give them something once the litter is on the ground, are you sure you are friends? There would be no pups without their dog, mongrel, cross breed or pedigree?

I may have your stance if a dog jumped a fence or came onto your property unwanted, but in this case they are your friends who came to stay with an entire dog at your request, they are less to blame than yourself here.

IMO you are being very mean, morally I don't get the issue..........but to save a friendship if you really don't wish to share, I'd abort anyway.......... a litter should always be planned with the right match and a waiting list.

Personally I would get my vet to give her the Alizin injection - far less risk than a pregnancy.  Then there is no stud fee to discuss.  Because your canine knowledge sounds extremely limited I would worry about how you would handle the whelping if you needed to deliver the pups by yourself.

Not purebred pups will be cross breed I'm not making any profit off the pups as I want them to go to good home

We had no way of seperate get them and I do take full responsiblity for not knowing  her heat

Ok I was just asking a simple question if I wanted a negitive to comment I would of said so but I didn't

If they wanted a stud fee there was she could of said so when she found them knotted not a month later

And as for youse saying you worry about my dog when she's in labor cuz of my lac of knowledge to stud fees is beyond a joke I don't have to know about stud fees to get my dog threw labour and youse don't know me one bit so how would you know I have a lack of knowledge when it comes to my dog giving birth Iv actually delivered a lot of litter not that it's any of your business. So please don't comment unless you understand and are actually comment to help instead of judging

I am surprised if you have been breeding for a while you did not realize your bitch was in season. It also surprises me that you could not separate them and so allowed them to continue to mate  without restrictions. 
I am not sure what help it is you want really as its up to you and your friend to sort it out. Its not a legal issue and there is no right or wrong you were both at fault. If your friend was living with you and she knew they were together and mating she should have removed her dog somehow if she did not want him to produce pups.

2 friends and an accidently mating happens .imo the best solution is to terminate the pregnancy.we have far too many dogs needing hime to have another unplanned litter added.if u dint terminate than I woudl say the obvious solution is split any payment received from pups un half less a % for you costs of looking after the bitch during pregnancy etc. Call that a stud fee of u like but seem sfait to me. To reconsider termination it's a much better and safer  solution all round

2 friends and an accidently mating happens .imo the best solution is to terminate the pregnancy.we have far too many dogs needing hime to have another unplanned litter added.if u dint terminate than I woudl say the obvious solution is split any payment received from pups un half less a % for you costs of looking after the bitch during pregnancy etc. Call that a stud fee of u like but seem sfait to me. To reconsider termination it's a much better and safer  solution all round

A sad story with both parties at fault but it's happened so has to be dealt with, as it's been said there are so many unwanted puppies and giving them away or selling them cheap does certainly not guarantee them a good home, termination would be my way to go however unpalatable, and spaying asap please.

I don't understand exactly what went on here (haven't read through your replies so far) but if this was a planned mating, you owe her for the stud service.   The only time I didn't take an up front fee (at the time of the first service) was if my stud dog happened not to be proven which was unlikely to happen (and never did) as I didn't allow my studs to be at public stud, until I'd used him myself to see what he was likely to throw.   If it happened to be a friend, perhaps I might have waived the fee until there were puppies on the ground.    In general, I have a Stud Contract.   So in theory, yes, you own her a stud fee.

However, if this was an accident then I'd suggest she's pushing it - and you are BOTH at fault for allowing this to happen.   Your bitch had to have been in season so should have been separated from the visiting male.

There is just the point that should this be a same-breed litter, with both the dog and your bitch registered with your Kennel Club, in order to register any puppies your bitch has, you will need her to sign the litter registration form - and she may refuse until paid.    MESSY!!

MamaBas it was accidental the op wasn't aware her bitch was in season. It will be a crossbreed litter. I dont see what stud fees has to do with it tbh in this case. a horrid mess all round . Its not about who should pay who but about making a sensible choice about the potential litter, my views are as I previously said to terminate .To friends need to stop arguing about money and work for the best of the bitch. is she a maiden bitch ? Is she of an age where having alitter is safe? How easy will it to find good homes. has the op time to look after Mum and pups safely ?
If the op didn't know her bitch was in season then I cant really see how the friend is to blame in any way but can see how she may want to some money for the pups that her dog helped create

> It will be a crossbreed litter.

Then this pregnancy SHOULD BE ABORTED - the bitch should be taken in for a gravid spay.    Further questions - how old is this bitch?   Was the male significantly bigger than her - in which case she may not even be able to carry to term let alone whelp without needing a C.Section.  Again none of this should have happened  and to say it wasn't known that the bitch was in season is just an excuse.   Surely somebody must have 'noticed' he was more than interested in her?    Two huge wrongs there and I agree FF - money (in terms of a stud fee) is hardly the point.

I suspect, as so often happens in cases like this, somebody has put the 'friend' up to asking for a stud fee!!!!!

"Iv actually delivered a lot of litter not that it's any of your business."

Wow, I was surprised to read that from what you had previously written. Crossbreed litter, any health tests done on the parents, what breeds are they, will bitch have difficulty whelping, what would be the demand for good homes for a crossbreed litter, are you prepared to keep any pups you can't sell/that are returned to you at any stage in their life etc. Your facilities sound very limited if the dogs had to be in a yard together all the time due to lack of space. Please think again about having the Alizin jabs.