Hi newbie here,
Anyone here ever had a lab who wen sittin seems unable to hold a normal sit posture,after 2-3seconds both legs splay open
my seven month pup sit seems tobe getting worse,she is a very leggy lab compared to my rather petit old girl who was small legged, but I still was concerned , that I asked my vet about(after previous nurse check up suggested I see their ortho specialist at the practice)as she saw first hand how terrible ithe'frog sit'was, I wanted advice on exercise regime etc .....lead only exercise as has been suggested in the past, or off lead runs to build up the muscles etc around the joint...she did a very quick exam and said it doesn't appear to cause her any pain wen she rotated or pulled etc the joint so just carry on as normal, going to get hips xrayed when she is spayed,to see for sure

IM afraid pup has come from as very questionable source(poss pup farm or not even 100% lab)' I was so devastated wen I lost my old girl at 15'and my other dog was so depressed I fell for dodgy stories so called breeder was telling me, of course I wouldn't be without her know,(not too sure my 14 old boy shares the same sentiment. Lol. But he has started playing with balls and sqeeky toys again, and has a little spring in his step again, albeit with the help of sum painkillers and supplements...that even the reaccurent giardia episodes pup has had ,she has  helped us all to slowly come to terms of our family losing the best lab in the world,
Sorry if I've waffled on  abit, but any info would be greatfully received

7 months - coming from a slow-maturing breed who goes through goodness knows how many 'ugly ducklng' stages, I appreciate what's going on to some extent.   Provided you have her on a good quality puppy food, and a sensible exercise regime - not too much for now, favouring the ambling around rather than more organised exercise (especially on a hard surface) I think you'll have to go with it.   And provided she's not having actual pain.   Keep her weight under control too!!   Dodgy breeder may well mean dodgy quality unfortunately but that's just one to go in the 'learning the hard way' book, maybe.   

With Giardia (and my last buy-in came to us with this - from a 'reputable breeder' I'd known for years too!) be aware that even if you get neg.fecal tests, many times not all the protozoa is killed off - some can burrow into the gut and lie dormant unless the animal is under stress at some point.   With mine, despite all the negative fecal tests, he was left with less than good stool quality - fine first thing, but far from that by the end of the day.   I eventually got all that stabilized by using Arden Grange Sensitive (yes reallyk) diet which is fish and potato.   Not the cheapest, but if it keeps him regular and out of the vet's office, worth every penny.   I tried switching him to Pooch & Co's tripe and rice but after a month or so on that, he started having skin problems.  So back to the AG.   Get your other dog checked (fecal) if you haven't because Giardia could have passed to him (and it can affect humans too - so basic hygiene has to be observed).

She had positive results twice now, so panacur and metrazinaole first time at 16weeks, then last month she was really bad and had tobe kept in overnite, ten days panacur, and again looks like it come back again, tho I must say the vets have just left out another 7 days of panacur,  so not worrying about another 50 quid test,I ve got giant bottle of disinfectant to use in garden, (she is one of the, I not going to poo when we out for a walk ,I ll do it at home lol) but finding info on the best one to use is hard, I ve got one that is strong enough for parvo, and many more but no mention of the g word,...my oldey has nice firm poos all time ,but understand he mite be the carrier(he will only poo anywhere other than the garden lol)... She been on rc gastro pup dry, and to help firm up on odd days I use alittle pumkin and slippery elm powder.  She now tips the scale at the magic 20kgs,but as she is so leggy I guess she going to pile on sum more until she stops growin

Frankie was given Panacur to treat this at first but it DIDN'T work.   Metronidazole was the thing that produced negative fecals but again it might not have killed all the protozoa.   We used Jeyes to clean up - didn't do much for the grass but still...

Where it might have come from on our property, given our original dog had none of this, could have been via standing water BUT he came to us in February when the ground was frozen and I make sure we have no standing water around in any case.   So my belief has to be he had this when we came to us.   An initial fecal test showed Giardia and Roundworm ova, despite my being told he'd been wormed just before he came to us.   This was my first, and hopefully last experience with Giardia.

Have you anywhere in the garden that collects/has standing water, as that is the environment that Giardia breed.

We have a fenced off pond, we have bird feeders but no bird bath,, I just heard back from a pet pharmaceutical supplier saying bleach is the only thing that kills it, I was hoping to avoid jeyes fluid because of the god awful smell,

'Forgot to mention 'Garden' a very loose term lol is all completey covered in slate chippings, so no grass worries,

'Forgot to mention 'Garden' a very loose term lol is all completey covered in slate chippings, so no grass worries,

Regarding your comment about spaying.guven u already have worries about joints please don't consider spaying before dog is fully mature around months or older.lots of info in how earlier spaying can cause joint problems.

I am so glad someone else feels the same as me, my vets are telling me they do almost anytime after 6 months now, which I was gobsmacked by, granted it been 14 years since I have had to make that decision, but back then it was after first season three months or so after, ..my vets were spouting all sorts of figures that support spaying earlier than in the past, Mammery tumours 30% less likely etc etc......I brought up my concerns regarding early spayin affecting growth plates etc etc, especially as she is such a lanky lab, but they they just poo pooed it. So I'm guna ion to do some more research nut my gut feeling is I wait till few months after before we get her done

Google neuter and golden retrievers and there is another r good one done on weimaraner together with lots of other info against early spay.also if in fb join canine health group info in the files

Thanks for that, will do , not impressed with vets pushing for early one, but have only been with them a year or so as my long term vet has retired sadly,, think I may start looking around at some others,

I'd wait until after second season and then spay midway between then and third. 

At least by then there is a clue as to what is mid cycle, which is the best time to spay.

I know I am late but can you give a bit more detail on the frog sit?  IS it only the hind legs?  What kind of floor is she on when this happens?  Is the hair between her toes trimmed?  Hairy toes are slippery and so can be a hard surfaced floor.  AT that age (and still) my boy would have trouble in the kitchen but be fine on the braided rug in the living room.  At age 8 he can still do the froggy lie down and even the froggy walk/crawl.  I've read it means good hips, I've read it means bad hips.  Since his hips are actually fine we've decided it means his muscles are nice and limber.

Regarding aru tumours although I don't want them most are benign something vets will in admit if pressed