My dog will be 3 next month but is suffering from manky teeth.

She is usually kibble fed, but have also done a stint feeding bones to see if that will help (carcusses, necks etc) but nope they just seem to be getting worse.

Is there a kibble that can help with teeth cleaning?

Or any other product you could recommend?

Many Thanks

Carcasses and necks won't help as they are too soft and will only be chewed for a very short time. You need proper meaty bones. I even have a 12 year old with sparkling white teeth due to chewing bones. :)

I'd suggest, from my own experience, that some breeds/bloodlines even are more prone to dental problems then others, despite what they eat.    I try to make sure mine have an annual dental examination, to keep on top of gum and teeth problems.

Kelp is also very good at aiding dog oral health, you can get it in several forms from several suppliers.

I have just ordered some "plaque off", it's got very good reviews.

>I have just ordered some "plaque off", it's got very good rev

:-(  :-(  :-(
I think it's rubbish.  And I bought the largest size they did.  Stupid me.

I found certain foods dreadful for manky teeth.

Pedigree puppy kibble was one,  6 months old and new teeth were filthy!

A month on Burns and her teeth were clean again.

I used a generic version of plaque off   (same species of  seaweed)  with  great results  for another dog:-)

I found certain foods dreadful for manky teeth.

Pedigree puppy kibble was one,  6 months old and new teeth were filthy!

A month on Burns and her teeth were clean again.

I used a generic version of plaque off   (same species of  seaweed)  with  great results  for another dog:-)

I'm another that swears by bones.  My oldest dog is 7 and she has gorgeous pearly whites and no stinky breath.  All mine are the same.  But then, they don't get kibble and haven't for some years.  Knuckle bones and larger, marrow type bones are the ones I use (probably 1 a month is enough).  I also bought a tooth scraper back when I fed kibble for my old girls teeth.  That would work to get the plaque off then I could brush her teeth to clean them up as best I could.  She still needed a few teeth out when she was around 10.....actually, I never thought about the difference between my old dogs fed on kibble and raw before!! I'm actually shocked!!  All I remember from my dogs was stinky breath and yellow teeth but my girls now are completely different. :O
And, I'm not a raw hippy.  I believe people use what they can/want and what works for them. No judgement from me.  But I've never noticed such a massive difference over years before :)

Another one for raw bones here :) When we got Bramble from Battersea he had very brown teeth considering that he was only about a year old. Giving him bones cleaned them off completely and when he died this year at about 16 his teeth were still in very good condition :) Tara is 12 1/2 and her teeth are very white :)

I use Dentasure gel on ours, but they get plenty of raw meaty bones as well--works better than any other product I've tried.

Large raw marrow bones are the only thing that work for my dogs.

My toy breed dog has always had manky teeth.  Twice the vet has cleaned them (last time he had 3 extractions) but within weeks they are scaled up again.  I feed raw but don´t give the bones now because he is no longer an only dog and there would be dog & cat fights.  When I did give bones it certainly helped a lot.

> I feed raw but don´t give the bones now because he is no longer an only dog and there would be dog & cat fights.  When I did give bones it certainly helped a lot

I had a bit of an incident recently when one of my Chi's took exception to another Chi eating a cows hoof next to him.  I had to laugh at the lady vet when she reprimanded me for not giving treats in separate rooms.

I just don't have a 20 room mansion.  :-(

Me neither JeanSW - I don-t have the money for a 20 room mansion either.  LOL

Another vote for raw knuckle bones.

I have an aussies on the verge of going to the vets as teeth very bad used Petzlife and I can say it really works even though I was sceptical and now use it once a week as maintenance. When I started using it I did it how they said. I must admit they don't like it but it saves having them cleaned at the vets. 

Another vote for raw knuckle bones.

Not easy for toy breeds.

I've never had a toy breed, but can they not chew them even though they may make no progress as such LOL? It's the chewing 'action' that does the teeth cleaning. I do know that on a raw group I visit there are lots of toy dogs on raw such as papillons and Chihuahuas including bones.

I do feed raw but I have difficulty getting bones for the papillon to chew on.  Where I used to live I had a butcher who would cut the marrow bone to whatever size I wanted (and he didn´t charge!!) but normal marrow bones are too heavy for the poor dog to do anything with.  Obviously neck bones aren´t the same thing but I´ll keep trying to find something suitable somewhere.

I have actually had a Beardie enjoying a huge bone with a Chihuahua's head inside the other end licking the marrow.

I can see no discernible difference between the teeth of one of my dogs over the others, they also all have an identical diet BUT my younger dog has several teeth that simply gather plaque.  I assume it's some aspect of their shape or enamel or...

Flippin' nuisance though as I have to help him manage it so I just flick it off from time to time.  Not quite as easy as it sounds but he just lies there like a lump (God love a doofus dog!!)

Clean Them!
I clean all my toy dogs teeth and, other than a couple who have very difficult to get to molars, they have nice clean white teeth.
I use a descaler and an electric toothbrush.Nice hairy tripe sticks, rice bones, nylabones and lamb ribs in between.
My supply of raw chicken feet has dried up sadly....they are the favourites.

If they've gotten to a point you can't see white enamel, get a professional clean and start from there.
I have an eleven year old here with a full set of pearly whites, they're getting a bit translucent but still all in good nick.

> I clean all my toy dogs teeth

Wish I had the spare time to do that :) Fortunately I've found that it isn't necessary giving bones to chew :)

I have the time ....and with toy dogs the determination that I'm not having a houseful of toothless wonders :-)

> and with toy dogs the determination that I'm not having a houseful of toothless wonders :-)

I don't have any experience with small dogs, but am I correct that they seem to have more problems with their teeth than bigger dogs ??

Very much so. It seems to be almost expected that they will be toothless in middle age.
The access is trickier for sure and some lines seem to suffer dental problems earlier than others but it's not a fait accompli by any means.

I'm shocked when I open some mouths while judging, how do 18 month old dogs teeth get to be brown?

Now with my Boxers no problems with tartar but they did get epulis, benign overgrowth of the gums.

> Very much so

Thanks - I wasn't sure whether it was just the owners of the small dogs that I know :) It must be an assumption for some that there is nothing that they can do about it :(

My dogs don't have marrowbones that often but it does seem to loosen up any tartar.
I was shocked to see a 2 year old OES today with yellow tartar down to the tip on his upper canines. My 11 year olds teeth are in better nick! I've asked the owner before what he's fed but she 'couldn't remember' lol

>I have to help him manage it so I just flick it off from time to time

Now this is what my thumb nails are for!  :-)   They are disgustingly disfigured but are honestly the best thing since sliced bread I've found for removing quite large bits at a time.

My 10 year old has only lost 2 teeth, 1 came out during an op, and I noticed just last week she'd lost another. My 12.5 year old American cocker (not a toy breed but another small dog) has only lost 1 or 2 teeth. I agree it seems to be some lines. None of mine enjoy having their teeth brushed so I admit I don't do it as often as I should, I do give dental chews and hard biscuits (hubby dead against bones alas).