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- By arched [gb] Date 21.08.14 16:10 UTC
Not sure if this has been mentioned already, and to be honest when I heard it on the news I thought it was a hoax, but it seems it isn't.
I know lots of people post on here about what cleaner to buy so if anybody is after a particular model it looks like the time to buy it is now, before it's taken off the market.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11047127/EU-rules-against-powerful-vacuum-cleaners-ban-best-models-Which-warns.html
- By Boo16 [gb] Date 21.08.14 18:13 UTC
Just last week I bought a new Dyson Animal. It was on offer at about £150 off - I am well pleased.

The report states that these powerful models cost £27 a year to run? Surely this figure depends upon first: How big is your house and do all the rooms have carpets. Secondly: How often do you vaccum (LOL tongue in cheek!)
- By snowflake [gb] Date 22.08.14 08:05 UTC
I have had a Dyson Animal for about 5 or 6 years and it is wonderful - I have 4 dogs three of whom are hairy!  I have to say I do have to vacuum once a day and the plastic container gets pretty full with dog hair/dust - my house is quite large and I also have to daily vacuum our bedroom where my two tabby cats sleep LOL!  I couldn't live without my Animal!!
- By Jodi Date 22.08.14 08:18 UTC
Would the Dyson Animal become a banned vacuum when this new law comes in?

It's beginning to sound like the banned breed act. :-)
- By Boo16 [gb] Date 22.08.14 08:54 UTC
This is my second Dyson Animal. I got my first 14 years ago. It has just 'died'. Not the actual vacuum, it was as powerful as ever, but I have had most of the parts replaced over the years for free.

I have just moved house and the carpet fitter, without asking, took my vacuum and wrenched the head off without releasing the mechanism so the wand no longer fitted. It had also had a recall on it for a potential problem so I called Dyson and they sent me a brand new Multi floor (£295) plus a different head (£58) for the grand total of £85. The only problem is that I found it too heavy so I gave it to my daughter and treated myself to the Animal (rollerball type) Fantastic!!

I live in a very small bungalow - three small rooms and my two dogs don't shed. It takes an age for the bin to fill and 10 mins to vac the whole place.

Edited to say: No, I am not a rep for Dyson LOL
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.08.14 08:59 UTC
From the comment by James Dyson it does seem none of his vacs are over 1600watts. 

Has objection is the energy efficiency labels being misleading as it isn't real life testing, just how much energy a vacuum not picking up uses.
- By Goldmali Date 22.08.14 09:08 UTC
I would never waste money on a Dyson -my Animal first broke within a fortnight, then needed regular repairs until the guarantee ran out and it had to be binned. It just had no suction, ever -would not even suck up my OWN loose hairs. I used an upright Dyson Animal when house sitting for a CD member earlier this year and that was very powerful but I hated it -too strong, FAR too heavy, you could not get into corners etc easily, it was so much hassle and twice the work I am used to because of the weight of it. I have now used Henry for years, a steal at around £99 -and they are 1200 watt but powerful enough to do things like pick up bones and dog toys with it if you can't be bothered to bend down. :)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.08.14 12:14 UTC
I have had my Dyson All floors DC14 since the model came out.

Uprights only have issues if hair is long enough to wind round the brushy bar. 

Don't have that problem with my hairy but only medium length haired breed.

Only have to clear the brushbar from human hair, especially since my daughter moved back home, not so much when my won was long, but she styles, dyes etc hers..
- By arched [gb] Date 22.08.14 12:45 UTC
I'm not a Dyson fan but what annoys me is that the choice of what we can buy is being taken away. Getting fed up being told what to do by the EU. Like one report says, having a smaller wattage cleaner will defeat the object if some households then find they need to have it on longer to achieve what they did with a more powerful one!.
- By peppe [gb] Date 22.08.14 13:09 UTC
I brought a Dyson DC41 in OCT2010 it is virtually being rebuilt as it had a problem from the beginning. After 2 engineers saying there was nothing wrong with it one can the other day and he was brilliant the down side he is retiring in 3 weeks but he is going to sort it out for me and showed me that so many things were wrong when it was built. i.e. twist cable within the outer casing, cracked part inside the ball because it was tightened to much which has cased another part to brake because it keep falling over sideways. New brush and seals. I was hoping they would just replace but they do not work that way.
- By Boo16 [gb] Date 22.08.14 14:09 UTC
Goldmali, you will always find the 'one' in any product that just doesn't live up to expectation. I have never had a problem with any Dyson that I have had and the only repairs have been 'accidents', not down to machine failure.

Example; six years ago I bought a brand new Vauxhall Zafira. 140 miles later the gear box failed. The electrics failed so the windows would not open. The keys wouldn't open the door. Few weeks later, the radior had to be replaced, it was one thing after another. It was recalled several times over different issues. During a 6 week period (once a week, it broke down on the motorway - a death trap!) Rac recovered me each time and took me 150 miles back home each journey. It go so that the Rac started to charge Vauxhall for their time. In the end, I went to the Vauxhall garage I got it from and refused to use it any more. I was given a courtesy vehicle for a couple of months and they did replace the car.

Would I have a Vauxhall again? Yes. As the RAC commented, it was a 'Friday build'

Sorry for the drivel........... It is Friday!
- By Goldmali Date 22.08.14 14:31 UTC
Goldmali, you will always find the 'one' in any product that just doesn't live up to expectation.

Yes, but I mentioned TWO different ones that I both disliked, for different reasons. :) There are also a large number of articles available on the net where consumer tests have shown all sorts of problems with Dysons, so I don't think it was a one off.
- By Boo16 [gb] Date 22.08.14 16:11 UTC
That's a shame Goldmali. This is my third, and all my three offspring have Dysons and, touch wood, no problems and we love them.

There are bad reviews but also good, so it's horses for courses. On this one subject - we will agree to disagree! Yes (can't do smiley faces)
- By suejaw Date 22.08.14 17:11 UTC
I've had a couple of Dysons but tbh I'm not impressed, something has gone wrong with it recently and have had a nightmare trying to get through to them for it to be fixed.
I wouldn't get another as it just doesn't seem to pick up fur like I was expecting and hoping it to.
Don't want a Henry, want an upright but just don't know which one is best. Miele are too expensive and don't want bags..
Doesn't leave me with much does it?
- By arched [gb] Date 22.08.14 17:55 UTC
Miele seem expensive but they are so reliable - mine has just turned 15 and is as good as new, not a single problem ever. Mine does have bags which is a personal preference and in the future I'll still buy bagged cleaners but I think they do an upright bagless one.
- By ChristineW Date 22.08.14 18:00 UTC
I've had a couple of Dyson's too, one I binned and the other I gave away on Freecycle.    Now I have a Henry.    Nothing more to add.
- By WolfieStruppi [gb] Date 22.08.14 18:16 UTC
Ditto Marianne.
I've had various Dysons since they came out. The two I have now will be the last. I've only got stair carpet, upstairs is laminate, downstairs is tiled and with 12 dogs the Dyson just doesn't do the job. In my grooming room I have a Henry and it's better by miles so that gets my vote for the next house vac.
I saw that article and I think it's ridiculous, we'll end up with electric toothbrushes more powerful. It was the same with lightbulbs. The day they took 100w bulbs off the market was grim for me, I just don't think these other bulbs have the same light and they look stupid in my wall lights.
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 22.08.14 18:31 UTC
Sebo upright for me every time, it has bags but I like that as you don't get dust everywhere when you empty or breath it in! You get a little plastic cap to put on the bag hole so no dust escapes. I change the roller brush twice a year as this does wear down but I use it loads so it's expected.
If they start selling off cheap to make way for new lower powered machines I will buy one in readiness for when mine might die.
- By arched [gb] Date 22.08.14 18:44 UTC
I get the feeling they'll just be taken out of shops etc because they won't be allowed to sell or import them after Sept 1st. I wonder what will happen to all the made ones, unless the manufacturers have been given so much notice that stocks are low.
- By JeanSW Date 22.08.14 22:16 UTC

> the choice of what we can buy is being taken away. Getting fed up being told what to do by the EU.


Same here, it is getting ridiculous.  They'll be telling me what colour underwear to wear next.  I am totally fed up of being told what I can or cannot do.  I come from an era when you could do whatever you liked if it wasn't hurting anyone.

I agree that the Miele is expensive but I wouldn't be without mine.  I am so impatient that that I want reliability for most things.  (If a car doesn't fire first time it's just a lump of scrap metal to me.)  :-)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.08.14 22:37 UTC

> I think they do an upright bagless one


any idea where as haven't been able to locate one.
- By Nova Date 23.08.14 03:46 UTC
Gave my Miele to the rescue stall last year but it was not an upright, I found it lifted the dirt and hair well but I had to empty the bag so often, could not afford to throw it, that the job took forever, went back to my faithful old Dyson till I could afford a new one. Now on my third, only problem with them was self inflicted and always found the Dyson service second to none. My new one is better than the earlier ones as it is so powerful I don't have the strength to use it so Alan, oh, has to, now what could be better than that.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 23.08.14 06:29 UTC
I have a Morphy Richards Pet Bagless (upright) which I now find we bought in 2007.   I looked because my husband managed to ram the two part of the extension tubes together, and we couldn't get them apart again!!!   A neighbour helped (parts are now out of stock!).   I haven't the faintest idea about 'powerful' but it works!!    EU rules drive me nuts - you can bet the French don't take any notice but here in the UK, we always do!!!

I tried my neighbour's Dyson but wasn't impressed - too heavy (this was an upright, the other kind may be lighter?)

If a car doesn't fire first time it's just a lump of scrap metal to me.   LOL    I'm the same with my computer!!!
- By furriefriends Date 23.08.14 07:18 UTC
I have dysons ,currently two and have a dead on I readlly must get rid of but over 27 yeas that's not bad. I also have a henry but sadly henry doesn't get up the fur as well as the dyson, he is great for the car and under the bed but not general hovering on carpets with a furry gsd and two others
- By Brainless [gb] Date 23.08.14 10:39 UTC
I have had three Dysons, DC01, DC04, and the DC14. 

I would never have needed the second if my brothers ex had not bent the wand by trying to force it in wrong which meant I couldn't use it for the stairs.

The build quality on the original DC01 was the best, but the newer models are great for access, with so many parts being able to be taken apart to clear any blockages.

I just could not get on with anything but an upright. 

Bags are a no no, I have to empty my Dyson after doing just the kitchen (where the dogs spend most time).  Need to empty at least twice by the time I have done the whole house.
- By Nova Date 23.08.14 13:54 UTC
That was the problem I had, three bags to do the sitting room, kitchen and office and they are expensive,to be honest I did not find it any better than the Dyson. As you say the UN-bunging facilities of the Dyson are the very best.
- By furriefriends Date 24.08.14 09:54 UTC
currys are doing the DC 33 at £199 atm which is quite good. not sure I would spend £3-400 on one which is the price of some
- By smithy [gb] Date 24.08.14 11:49 UTC
Is it just me or does anyone else think this is totally ludicrous. With many families having more than one car. Huge lorries on all our roads. Endless traffic jams causing excess fuel burning. Buildings that have huge lights burning all night Etc Etc and the EU want to restrict the size of vacuum cleaners!!!!!

And how many millions of our money will it wast enforcing something that will make as much difference as taking a bucket full of water out of the Pacific Ocean!!! It just makes me despair.
- By JeanSW Date 24.08.14 21:52 UTC

> I don't have the strength to use it so Alan, oh, has to, now what could be better than that.


Now that is what you call a "cunning plan."
- By Charlie Brown [gb] Date 25.08.14 05:59 UTC
Agree this is a totally pointless excersise, savings are a drop in the ocean, although I did see in 2017 no vacuums over 900 watts will be available...... and it isn't going to stop there.

All other electrical items are also under scrutiny by the EU and will have similar restrictions.

I guess in our house, we will vacuum for longer and more often, to clean the floors to the same hygienic standard a more powerful vacuum would do it in half the time!
- By smithy [gb] Date 25.08.14 08:47 UTC
They will probably ban electric tooth brushes next. After all that has the double benefit of both saving electricity and increasing peoples excercise as the revert to manual teeth cleaning
- By Jodi Date 25.08.14 09:05 UTC
Do you think they will allow us still to use a dustpan and brush in the future when they have banned all vacuums!

The people that make these stupid decisions can't be the ones that are doing the cleaning in the house.
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 25.08.14 11:48 UTC
Do you think they will allow us still to use a dustpan and brush

Yes but remember you will have to wear - at very least - a dust mask because of the health & safety rules :eek:
- By Jodi Date 25.08.14 12:18 UTC
tatty-ead

:-)
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