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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / csj complete
- By Martingale [gb] Date 28.03.14 18:42 UTC
Hi anyone out there feeding csj, i am thinking about feeding cp24 to my wcs. Anyone with any experience of feeding csj any pros or cons,
- By JeanSW Date 28.03.14 23:02 UTC
I have a lot of dogs, and different breeds.  In the past I've used CSJ, although I'm using a more expensive brand now. 

I had no problems with CSJ and fed it to my Collies and my toy breeds.  They didn't turn their noses up at it, and all looked in good fettle.
- By Dill [gb] Date 30.03.14 09:47 UTC
Mine are back on CSJ now, after a year off when they changed the formulas.    Tried various different ways of feeding and foods, but CSJ That'll Do is what really suits them, so we'll stick with it :-)  

I would be happy using the one you mention, but personally, I would worry about the high level of additional copper in the CP line.   Although it's a similar level to Arden Grange performance food.   

If you have a breed that is unaffected by the possibility of Copper Storage disease, then probably not a problem ;-)      Ours are all DNA tested clear for CT and PM biopsy of my recently deceased bitch confirms this, but I still prefer caution regarding copper levels ;-)
- By AlisonGold [fr] Date 30.03.14 15:23 UTC
My Goldens are on it but I use Hi Lost. All have good shiny coats and are in good condition.
- By Sianb [gb] Date 14.04.14 19:18 UTC
Hi I feed all my digs in csj my old lab is on old champ my 3yr Bernese is on sooper dooper champ and my litter of pups I've just had we're weaned on cp27. I love csj can't rate it high enough. My BMD can get a bit if a runny tum but on csj I've not had a problem at all with her. She is fit healthy and looks fantastic even after having a litter! The old lab I have needed to cut hi weight down and that was the only food I found that he could eat with out being hungry yet still lost the weight he needed to, and again he looks great lovely shiny glossy coat.
- By gsdowner Date 24.04.14 10:18 UTC
Sorry to sound like a complete div but what does csj stand for?
- By LurcherGirl [gb] Date 24.04.14 11:53 UTC
I don't know what it stands for, but it is the actual name of the food range and the company.
- By Roxylola [gb] Date 24.04.14 12:18 UTC
No idea and I feed it.  just the name they chose for the company I guess.

As to the feed mine were on Champ but moved to That'll Do/Hi Lost and they look great on it.  All three have lovely shiny coats and are all a good weight on it, look really fit and well.  They were ok on Champ but the springer dropped weight very quickly.  They do produce quite a lot of output though!
- By Tommee Date 24.04.14 12:35 UTC
Ceri Rundle who runs the company used to be Ceri Jones so the name is probably related to that
- By gsdowner Date 25.04.14 09:11 UTC
Oh, ok. I am going to look into it. My breed specific forum sing the praises of millies wolfheart but my lot all turn their noses. They eat it but not with relish and yet any old rubbish from the supermarket is cleared quickly. I used to feed chappie because a gsd rescue recommended it for its low gluten content. But as it is cereal based, my boy started to put on weight. I'm still trying to find one that suits all of my dogs. Millies can be fed from pup to senior so I don't need to worry about pup clearing other bowls. Something like this would be ideal.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 25.04.14 09:40 UTC Edited 25.04.14 09:46 UTC
http://www.csjk9.com/     I hadn't heard of this either - so many smaller brands are regional and maybe not known (or available?) countrywide.

Looking at the information for the basic food, I'm liking the fact it begins with Tripe, and that it's only 22% protein.  I'm also liking the look of the fish based variety which I have to use with my Basset.   The price is certainly competitive and much as they'd not put bad reviews up (?) the feedback is all good.
- By Roxylola [gb] Date 25.04.14 11:34 UTC
Truly, not heard anything bad about it at all, seems very popular among agility folk.  Even my Oh's shih tsu will eat it and they are notoriously fussy

My local supplier is a bit of a hike away but cheaper than the website!  Online orders take about 5 days to arrive.

If you email them they will send samples to see if the dogs like them. 
- By Blay [gb] Date 25.04.14 13:38 UTC
I've tried various csj complete (sorry, can't remember which ones now).  Unfortunately it did not suit my boys (large gun dog).  It made them produce huge amounts of poo and they began to lose condition on it.

I'm really not trying to put a dampener on the OP's enquiry , or csj products.  I think the food is good quality and I know lots of people who feed it very successfully - which is why I tried it in the first place.  I was disappointed as I liked the company and rated the quality highly.  I think it just goes to show that however good a food is it might not suit all, as happened in my case.  (My lads are now back on Arden Grange and doing really well).

I think you just have to try it and see how you get on.  Good luck, hope it works for your dogs.
- By gsdowner Date 25.04.14 21:11 UTC
A lady I sold one of my pick puppies to has turned her nose up at arden grange saying the pup wouldn't eat it. I weaned him onto butcher's tripe puppy too and apparently that was a cardinal sin. She feeds millies and that needs to be weighed out specifically to your dog's weight. Her pup is larger than mine but gets less feed because he can't tolerate how rich it is. Last time I saw them she said "he's losing his puppy  fat". I like to keep my dogs slightly lean but that boy looked almost skin and bone.

I will definitely be looking into it and possibly ordering some samples. Thankfully I'm blessed with dogs that have waste disposal units for stomachs! I think millies is a little steep when mine aren't that interested in it so an alternative would be appreciated.
- By Pedlee Date 26.04.14 06:24 UTC
There are a number of varieties of Millies and I found no matter how I try to introduce it the salmon goes straight through them. However they do very well on the Countryside Mix. I don't measure out the portions meticulously either. Only a small portion of their diet is made up of kibble as I mostly feed raw.
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 26.04.14 09:07 UTC
I think it just goes to show that however good a food is it might not suit all, as happened in my case.  (My lads are now back on Arden Grange and doing really well).


This is soo true.   I've asked them to send me samples (Complete Tripe and Fit & Fast) but may not buy a big bag (s).   I'd love to get my Basset off AG Sensitive for the cost alone, but up to now, everytime I've gradually switched him onto something else, back to the less than normal stools.   So it may be a case of 'if it ain't broke'....... with him at any rate.   It may be that salmon won't agree with him?

Losing condition on csj might be good for my Whippet who having turned 5 now, is 'tubby'.   Not that I like Whippets to look rail thin!!
- By gsdowner Date 26.04.14 15:51 UTC
I think the salmon variety of millies is the richest. I have mine on countryside and riverside. They eat the lowest amount to their weight because no matter what the millies team advises, I have to add something tinned to get them to eat it - even if its only salmon or sardines in oil or an egg thus defeating the oject of not having to buy various types and life stages!
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / csj complete

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