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Hope the injured party is OK today.

To me it sounds like two dogs had a scrap and one person got in between, which of course can happen to us all without the dog really being at fault.

Hope the woman is alright, hospital sounds quite serious.

Sounds like human error to me, rather than a 'dog bite' incident.

Have to say, I am amazed at how cavalier some people are with their dogs at shows, expecting everyone else to watch out for them and not being aware of what their dog is doing.

If you have a reactive dog, then I believe it's your responsibility to know what he's doing, not be looking elswhere all the time.

And then there are the people who walk their dogs around at shows on the longest leads letting them get tangled with everyone and everything or expecting everyone else to scramble out of their way!

Thankfully most people aren't like this, but it only takes one or two to create mayhem.

>Hope the woman is alright, hospital sounds quite serious.

A hospital visit would be routine for a minor bite injury that broke the skin, for a precautionary tetanus injection.

>> A hospital visit would be routine for a minor bite injury that broke the skin, for a precautionary tetanus injection.

Thought this was no longer an automatic after a dog bite?  A friend got a deep puncture wound on her leg after being bitten by a Bernese at a show last year and the paramedics cleaned it and told her to see her doctor if any swelling or redness occurred but said she did not have to go to hospital for a tetanus even though she had not had a yet shot since a child.  Same went for husband who got bitten by a stray dog at a marina last year as well, different part of the country, paramedics gave exactly the same advice.  And our doctor and local hospital also said the same when I queried it the following week.

I was bitten last year, it was a couple of puncture wounds and some grazing, I went to see the practice nurse after calling the surgery for advice - first time bitten after 35 years of dog ownership!

She deliberated whether to give me a tetanus and consulted with the Dr, I ended up with a tetanus and course of antibiotics, apparently there is a particular bacteria in dog saliva that's prone to cause infections.

Yesterday i was stood outside one of the blocks upto no good :) there was many dogs outside and also a lady with several young children, the kids were running riot and mauling everyones dogs whilst the mother carried on smoking, well as this 3 or 4 year old girl was running around she ran smack bang face first in a akita that was coming out, that child was so lucky because i know if i ran into something charging at me i would lash out but that akita bless stood rock solid even though the kids face hit his face. That could of been so worse and the poor dog would of got into trouble, mother did not bat a eyelid and then the kid continued to maul a keeshond grabbing its face and trying to kiss it......

I'll be honest, I'd  have taken the woman to task for her children.    Especially if they put my dogs at risk.     Some people just need to be remided that their children are their responsibility and that they are causing a problem.    

I don't think the BBC and other programmes have done Crufts exhibitors any favours,  selling it as a good day out meeting the fluffies and furries and a shopping experience, whilst playing down the fact that dogs are not soft toys, and should be treated with respect.

At Crufts one year, I told one woman to get her marauding child out of my dog's face, she asked would the dog bite?   My reply was 'No, but I will'

I don't think the BBC and other programmes have done Crufts exhibitors any favours,  selling it as a good day out meeting the fluffies and furries and a shopping experience, whilst playing down the fact that dogs are not soft toys, and should be treated with respect.

Not helped by the girl that was trotting up and down the benches yesterday in a costume and her tiny chihuahua in a silly costume too being filmed for some programme :/

>Not helped by the girl that was trotting up and down the benches yesterday in a costume and her tiny chihuahua in a silly >costume too being filmed for some programme :/

Why would the Crufts organisers allow something like this at their show ?    (Permission is needed to film at Crufts)

There are enough people knocking Crufts for being a 'beauty pageant' without adding fuel to the fire and allowing people to dress their dogs up in silly costumes.

This isn't the way to get taken seriously in the arena of dog welfare and health surely?

Nope but i have to say the noise in the bob collection area was so oppresive it was louder than a concert, i really don't think it is good for most dogs, my poor boy was terrified :(

>At Crufts one year, I told one woman to get her marauding child out of my dog's face, she asked would the dog bite?   My reply was 'No, but I will'

I just love it.  :-)

Not aimed at anyone, just tagging on.

I was surprised to see some sort of youtube compilation featuring 'guilty dogs' up on the Crufts site. The last bit showed a bull breed sitting in a bath while the owner harangued it....I got the feeling the dog would then be showered as punishment. Do people at the KC really think this kind of stuff is funny?

It has also been interesting to watch the judging on Youtube and in particular the slowmo sequences. So many dogs look unhappy with lots of lip licking along with white eye and yawning when the judge goes over them. A fair few strung up on the move and again lots of lip licking.

What was going on with the Standard Poodle in BIS? Jessica Holm said it was stretching but a lot of dogs do this if they have a bad stomach.

HE was stretching, poodles do this a lot, watch them as they get down from the grooming table, you see this a lot.  Don't you think a canine athlete should be allowed a stretch before moving off?

Gwen, as a poodle expert I take your word for it, if this is commonplace in the breed then so be it. To the uneducated eye the dog just looked like he didn't want to move. It is good to know that nothing was awry.

A friend has a half-brother and he stretches a lot before doing anything as well!

>Don't you think a canine athlete should be allowed a stretch before moving off?

I thought he was just having a stretch too - my dogs do it all the time (although they are not poodles). In fact the very fact that he did take his time and did stretch just showed how un-phased he was by the whole experience. His handler/owner didn't try and hurry him up (something that was apparent in some handlers) either. A credit to his owner/breeders. I also love to see dogs 'respond' to the judges. Nothing worse than 'automated' dogs in my opinion. The Rottweiler's tail did not stop wagging when the judge approached him. His owner/handler must be very proud, he was a credit to his breed.

>Jessica Holm said it was stretching but a lot of dogs do this if they have a bad stomach.

Yes, it's a common symptom of abdominal discomfort, which was my first thought. I've never seen a dog do that in the ring before.

I've not seen them do it when they get off my grooming table I must admit, it did look like he was uncomfortable, but hopefully as others have said he was just stretched. He moved fantastically once he set off anyway!

JG, Well I'm prepared to be persuaded by breed experts- just shows we never ever stop learning. Another poster says that the dog's brother does the same thing so perhaps its a line trait or learned behaviour.

I read on facebook that he was "taking a bow". Poodle folk were saying this. The dog is known for it apparently.

>Well I'm prepared to be persuaded by breed experts- just shows we never ever stop learning. Another poster says that the dog's brother does the same thing so perhaps its a line trait or learned behaviour.

You could be right. I personally have no idea why he did that - as I say I've never seen it before in the ring, not even with poodles - and as long as he's not unwell it really doesn't matter. There have been so many reasons bandied about - some more defensive than others - that one of them must be the truth! :-)

JG,
Yes, if no physical issue and he was happy it does not matter a jot.

I suppose part of me is still not over the staffy BOB fiasco last year and the fact that it appears all concerned got off scott free. On a plus note the Dog CC that was beaten to BOB by the lame bitch got Terrier grp 3 this year, so some justice there.

Bedlingtons seem to do this a lot too.  Certainly after a sleep, but other times too.

My own will take that position to chew a tripe stick or bone,  certainly no discofort  there.

I  think, when looking at stretching as a sign of discomfort, it's  important to look at the way the dog is behaving in general too.  On it's own, no problem, but accompanied by an unhapppy  dog, may be something more going on.