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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Nervous puppy
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 24.02.14 20:35 UTC
My puppy is now 7months old, and a month ago she went from being a happy confident wee pup, to not allowing people to go over her at ringcraft. She has now in the past week, gotten spooked at a bin on our walk and barked at it, got spooked by a dog barking at her in park (it was a teeny tiny westie, shes 25kg!) and when a dog sniffed her bum recently at ringcraft she shot up onto my lap and was a quivering wreck!! She also got a fright meeting my mums pup when she ran at her to play (they meet every week or so and are usually best friends) a few minutes later she was happy to go back to playing with her.
At other times shes her usual happy self, but I really hate seeing her like this. She is such a well socialised baby, we went to puppy school with her and are still at the follow on classes which she loves, and started ringcraft when she was 13weeks, and we go 2 or 3 weeks out of 4. She comes to work with me every day (in a vets) so meets the staff and some clients every day, and some of the friendlier dogs. We walk in busy areas where she sees children, people and dogs every day and has always been happy to meet them all.

I think this is her second fear phase, but I didn't expect it to be so bad. My male never went through a phase to my knowledge, hes bombproof.
Has anyone any tips or advice? I've not entered any other shows with her at moment, her first 2 she was ok, stepped away from judge but allowed them to go over, but on Sunday she refused to allow judge to go past her head.
I havent forced her into anything, I try to ignore her when she spooks and to keep walking in a confident manner but its breaking my heart to see her like this :(
- By Nikita [gb] Date 25.02.14 08:19 UTC
I feel your pain!  Willow hit hers at about the same time and was much the same, particularly spooky with dogs.  I got her through it but the effects are still lingering - in the last couple of weeks she's been badly frightened by a couple of dog incidents and it's set her back straight away.

You'll need to be proactive about - ignoring will not help.  You need to teach her that the things she's scared of are good - for Willow, this means that the moment she clocks another dog she's getting a click and a tasty treat, and then any time she's watching them and not barking I'm rewarding it.  Because we've done this before, that first clicks sets her off into the pattern of look at dog, look at mum, get a treat so she's not stood staring at them and winding herself up, and she's progressing nicely.

I'd take it easy for a bit as well, so you don't overwhelm her while she's going through this.  Yesterday Will had a big spook at a dog I hadn't spotted, much barking and she was off lead so she did a half-charge too, so she only had a 10 minute walk then chilled at home with a kong, rather than keep walking her and risk seeing more dogs that, with a now already heightened stress level, would only make things worse because she'd be that much more likely to react.  It's knowing when to just stop and have a break as much as knowing you need to work them through it - it's a balance.  Oh, and little dogs often worry big dogs as they are small, very quick and can get underneath and around feet ;-)

I would also back off from ringcraft for a little while or, if you can, just take her and hang out at the side.  Certainly I'd hold off from letting the judges go over her - you said before she's shown teeth IIRC, she's already telling you she's not comfortable and right now, with all the other spookiness, pushing the issue will only make it worse.  She needs to see that nothing's going to happen so if you can just chill out and spectate, that would be great - she can just take it in, watch what's happening and start to build the positive associations again (same as with dogs, rewarding when she sees other dogs there or the judge).  If the judge would be willing to just give her a treat but not do anything with her, so much the better right now.

A caveat - it may be that she will never be totally happy with ringcraft now, sometimes it does happen.  These fear periods don't generally have a lasting effect but for some dogs, they really can - I've known perfectly socialised dogs totally change at the second period and their owners did nothing wrong.  Not saying this will happen, do keep working at it but slowly, but try not to put pressure on yourself and her to conquer the ringcraft issue - doing this can actually scupper your hopes!  Any time I see a new client with a frightened dog, one of the first things I tell them is not to set very large goals, because the pressure of trying to reach them can totally undermine any progress.  It's a mistake I've made - I learned it with my first rescue.  I so wanted her to be totally happy around other dogs that all progress stalled, but when I finally admitted she might not be and relaxed a bit, suddenly she progressed very quickly and in the end, actually was happy around most dogs!
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 26.02.14 22:53 UTC
Thank you so much for your reply! At least I know I'm not alone.

Shes never shown teeth at anyone, shes just sidestepped from 2 judges into me, but then stands eating her cocktail sausages and was fine, but at show at weekend she backed up and wouldnt allow judge to go past her head, didn't show teeth though, just backed up and pulled against lead, so we abandoned it.

On our walk today she met a guy with 3 labs and she was super excited to see them and played nicely, she then met a springer she had met before and had a wee run around with her too, so that was nice to see!

I'll get the clicker out and start going over her in house and clicking and giving a word command for being touched down her back (I say "teeth" for when judges look in mouth) and see if that helps.

Thanks again.
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 27.02.14 00:44 UTC
Might help if you show her teeth in future, was advised that when my girl first went nervous of people. What I do now with my girl after the teeth and head is done I hold a big chunk of dried liver for her to chew on while the judge does his/her thing. She only gets liver at shows when being gone over. She loves the liver so it's extra special for her. Her last show she didn't even look back. She had sausage at a class match this week which she left to look back at the judge when he moved to her back end so i now know sausage is less value for her than liver.
- By Nikita [gb] Date 27.02.14 13:30 UTC

> Shes never shown teeth at anyone


My apologies, I must have got you crossed over with someone else.  That is good, she's not been pushed too far and felt she needs to up the warning then :-)
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Nervous puppy

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