After looking at the ingredients for eden dog food it seems good with 80% meat content, what I noticed though is that it had a few things added like alphalfa, rosemary, blueberry etc and thought do dogs really need this?
I feed a raw diet which comes from the butcher, it consists of:

chicken legs
chicken wings
lamb ribs
lamb necks
lamb legs
ox tail
shin
ox liver
ox kidney
turkey legs on occasion
pilchards
sardines

what im wondering is do I need to feed a supplement or is the diet I feed my dog varied enough? she gets mostly muscle meat, some bone and some offal, she gets some small leftovers and especially loves a sunday dinner blended up haha
I would love to be able to source other meat like rabbit, turkey necks etc but I live in northern Ireland and the companies charge extortionate delivery fees to n.i so I have to rely on my local butcher.
I also do a bit of salmon fishing and she gets a piece of salmon every once in a while if im lucky enough to catch one haha

Are the pilchards, sardines fresh?

alphalfa, rosemary, blueberry etc and thought do dogs really need this?

In my opinion, no. I feed raw to try and emulate a species appropriate diet and don't feel that they would eat this in the wild by choice. Everyone is different though.

I also feed green tripe, can you get some of this? The nutritional benefits of green tripe are very good. Do you feed raw eggs? It is a personal choice as to what people feed but as long as it is balanced this is what matters.

The general consensus of opinion is 10% offal, 10% bone and 80% meat in a week. You are looking for a wide variety of meat/offal over a several week period in order to make it balanced ;-)

Why not join the Face Book raw feeding page as it has a list of suppliers that is very useful and also covers N.Ireland.

no the pilchards are sardines are tinned sadly.

I don't have facebook either (shock/horror)

I didn't have FB until recently lol but realised that it would serve me well if I wanted certain information ;-)

My Daughter is on it all of the time and found the page, which is why I joined as I was looking at changing food suppliers up here in Scotland. If you want, I can look on the files section of the page for suppliers in N.Ireland?

thanks hp but my wife is on fb so ill ask her to look for me, hopefully can come across some good info ;)

Thats good, have a look here https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawfeedinguk/ - useful for food suppliers ;-)

No you dont need to add supliments ad although there is some difference of opinion regarding fruit and veg personally I dont include either. The only time I include f and v is if I have bit left over so its cooked or too bulk out food for weight loss if required
If you can get to fb join the group hairypooch suggests it is very good and loads of really experienced knowledgable raw feeders.  This group is of the believe that dogs cant properly digets f and v The basic tennant is to feed as varied as possible both fish and meat and bones ( preferably not the large weightbearing bones as they are too hard and can breakl teeth ) not forgetting offal which includes heart all strictly muscle meat. Green tripe is excellant not the type you get from the butcher for uman consumption as it has been treated. I also give them raw eggs
With regard to fish fresh/frozen is best but I do use tinned in oil or water as my little darlings wont eat raw fish yet. I only feed tinned fish occasionally so it doesnt bother me although not ideal

Hope that helps 

Your dog should be getting everything she needs in a well balanced diet but, as with humans, you might want to consider supplements at certain times of the year, time of life, or for specific medical conditions and complaints.  Many raw feeders will look to supplement before and after litters, elderly dogs, or certain coat types for overall health and pigment etc.  In addition you might want to supplement where you know that you have food gaps.

I have dogs with particular medical conditions that require me to boost essential fatty acids and pay particular attention to their dietary needs for skin, coat and nails.  Two very useful catch all supplements are Salmon Oil (my dogs will not eat fresh fish!) and some of the herbal supplements such as Keepers Mix from Dorwest Herbs.

Like many raw feeders I don't think that grain, fruit and veg are strictly necessary but I tend to follow my dogs lead in this.  They will actively seek out fruit such as blackberries, apples (we live in Somerset so even our hedgerows have windfalls) and wild plums.  They positively feast on fresh spring grass too and will beg for vegetable peelings so I feel they must be deriving some benefit from these food groups - even if it's simply that they like the taste.  So with that in mind I do give them peelings and trimmings from all our appropriate veg and, during the winter glut when making making soups and stews, I freeze the extras for them.  I don't go out of my way to add this stuff but it does them no harm, minimises waste, and they really like it so who I am I to argue :)  It's also worth thinking that, even if some of it does go straight through, a certain amount of fibre is actually quite helpful to accompany bone and ease the transition through the gut, preventing constipation.  Imagine eating a whole rabbit: the fur isn't nutritionally important but can be quite useful for the same reason.  Incidentally do you feed much mince?  Your diet looks quite high in bony meats...

good points made dab ( as usual) yes I would add supliments for the reasons you say and also similar with regard to veg.
With regard to mince make sure it is 100% meat as it often has bone minced up to and that would be defeating the point. I use chunks rather than mince so the are still chewing and its close to prey model.
I wonder if the op is using anything like that rather than meat and bone each time but different dogs need different amounts of bone

> but I tend to follow my dogs lead in this

I'm the same :) Our dogs love all fruit and veg and always get a small quantity of whatever fruit/veg we are eating or preparing. Our older dog, in particular, loves cucumber and always gets the 'old' end which we cut off and tomatoes which he 'picks' from my plants. Of course, we make sure that he doesn't get onion, grapes, sultanas etc. Both dogs love fresh grass too. They also get a tiny quantity of our evening meal - whatever it is - curry included (which is their favourite) - in fact, they get small amounts of everything we eat plus their raw meat, bones etc. It hasn't done them any harm - they are 15 and 11 and not overweight. The vet saw them recently and commented on how fit they were :) :)

I feed some beef mince mixed in with the raw liver and kidney because my dog simply wont look at liver or kidney on its own.

She also gets ox heart now and again.

I wonder if my butcher would be able to make me up some mince, if so what should I ask him to put in the mincer?

As the poster above me said also my dog usually has some suitable leftovers, sunday roast, spaghetti Bolognese is her fav haha

my butcher sells ox tongue, anyone tried this?

> my butcher sells ox tongue, anyone tried this?

Is it salted? The only ox tongue I've seen on sale in butcher's shops is.

I don't know if its salted, ill ask tomo

> what should I ask him to put in the mincer?

Looking at your list, the majority of it is bone-in meats - all good, but obviously high in bone.  Given that you want to aim for 80% meat 10% offal and 10% bone you'd need to ensure that your butcher is mincing meat only to provide you with the balance OR you could buy extra meat to compensate (it doesn't have to be mince, chunks are great).  Heart counts as muscle meat when raw feeding dogs, as does tongue (make sure it is untreated) and you will obviously take any of the fat trimmings or offcuts when he's cleaning joints for sale.  Breast of lamb is a cheap cut which you should be able to source quite easily.  Sometimes it will still have the ribs in but often you'll find it cleaned and rolled as it makes a great slow cooked meal and is very popular with older folk, who know just how good it is!

Leftovers are fine - and many people do it - but do watch the processed foods as they are often really high in sugar and salt. 

Re liver and kidney - try feeding it frozen.  My dogs are a bit dubious when it's wet and warm but will happily chomp quite large chunks straight from the freezer :)

One of my dogs wouldn't eat liver or kidney to begin with so I used to flash fry it for a minute and gradually reduced the length of time it was cooked for and he very soon got to the point of not having it cooked at all. I think it's the texture - some dogs take a while to get used to it whilst others eat it straight away in it's raw state.
You could also try whizzing it up in a food processor - messy but works - to begin with and work towards just cutting it into small pieces and then larger chunks until your dog gets used to it. Both methods have worked for the one dog who wasn't keen. The others just wolf it down without a problem :-)

Only supplement I feed are Salmon oil but cut down on that when Sprats are in season as they love those raw, wheatgerm oil if planning on mating a bitch and diatomaceous earth as a natural wormer.  Otherwise a wide range of meat and bone - mine especially love pigs trotters!

careful with tomatoes they can be toxic. The more ripe the less toxicity. The plant itself is also toxic

I used to feed Ox tongue, if you get a whole one, it's massive, so should last a long time, it's also very very lean.
My dogs loved it, but do be prepared for some serious hacking if you do get it whole.

got an ox tongue from the butchers yesterday, made sure it was unsalted, it is huge haha and the butcher cut it into chunks for me.

It does look like very lean meat, also got 2 huge hearts and 4 bags of mince that the butcher gave me free, just beef mince that didn't sell that day so ive told the butcher ill take this all the time if it doesn't sell:)