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Topic Dog Boards / General / Shaming shoppers at Waitrose, Newbury :(
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 18.07.13 20:45 UTC Edited 19.07.13 10:58 UTC
This evening, when the temperature was still showing at 21.7 C, there were two labradors shut in a car in the carpark at Waitrose, Newbury. 

My sister asked the store manager to put out a call, to the owners of the dogs, and he was reluctant, until Ali phoned the police ...then he put out a customer call:(

Personally I would have bricked a window in then asked the manager to give a customer call :(
- By MsTemeraire Date 18.07.13 21:44 UTC
It's awful isn't it?

Three dogs were rescued from a hot car yesterday in Somerset - their owner had bought a 3 hour parking permit and just left them!
- By suejaw Date 18.07.13 22:19 UTC
I did this last year at a local Sainsburys, vehicle left in sun with dogs in, they had been in the vehicle for at least 30mins, not quite the temps of the past few weeks.
Owner came over and had a pop at me, I just shook my head in disbelief, told them to leave their dogs at home in the future!
- By Boody Date 19.07.13 07:49 UTC
3 hours????
you have to wonder of they were actually trying to kill them off, I don't think that anyone can claim to be ignorant nowadays as there is so much info about it.
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 19.07.13 09:06 UTC
a dog (possibly German shepherd but could be wrong) was rescued from a car that was parked on the road beside our local beach at lunchtime yesterday. Police were called who smashed the window and removed the very distressed dog. Presumably owners were sunning themselves on the sand.
Seriously, what is wrong with people? You cant tell me they have NO common sense and have seen NONE of the warnings in the media. Dogs die in hot cars!!!!!!!
- By floJO [gb] Date 19.07.13 09:11 UTC
Leaving dogs in cars in hot wether is inexcusable.   But there is a huge lack of common sense in many dog owners.

We were shopping in our local town at 2.30pm last Saturday.  It was stonking hot and people were dragging their poor dogs around in the heat.  I wonder did they ever think to stand on pavements/tarmac in their bare feet and feel how hot it gets to walk on??  Every step is one too many.  And the poor dogs' tongues were hanging out so far they were nearly on the ground.  I felt like going over and asking them how they thought the dog would be coping in such temperatures but unfortunately, that's likely to result in a mouthful of abuse thse days.  I wish the RSPCA would have a few volunteers in every town centre when temps are high and 'educate' these dog owners.
- By Bellamia [it] Date 19.07.13 09:47 UTC
In Italy if you leave a dog in a hot car there is a fine of 1000 euros...so many dogs were being left in hot cars that the law was created to put a stop to this. Don't  they fine people in uk ?
- By LJS Date 19.07.13 09:51 UTC
Walking bad but taking dogs running in this heat is not on at all :-(
- By Jetstone Jewel [ca] Date 19.07.13 12:23 UTC
In the GTA a little boy was left for hours and died.  In the space of a few days more children were rescued from hot cars in separate incidents.

This prompted a reaction from child care experts who wrote an article for publication to say:

MOST parents of these children are good parents.  They are not drug addicts, drunks, lazy bums or sub intelligent, not most of them.  Most of them are exemplary parents.

So how does tragedy happen then, if they're such good parents?  A change in routine seems to be involved.  A different parent took the child to day care that awful day and forgot the child.  How can you possible forget your own child even if it's not usually you who takes the child?  This is the horrifying part, they think child safety seats are part of the problem.  Because, as child deaths from car accidents have gone down, left in the car incidents have gone up, some resulting in death.  Experts theorize that new car seats that are placed in the back seat, and to add to the problem, face backwards, might be the culprit.  Add in a quiet or snoozing child that the driver cannot see or hear from the front seat, well, you get the picture.  The author's plead that people don't think it can't happen to them because they are not sub human, drug addicted zombies who never should have had children.  It can, and does, happen to the best people.

My plea is that we take this to heart with our pooches.  If we are women and parked our car in an iffy place we are taught to be hyper alert, check the car etc. before getting in, right?  Let's do that all the time, just a quick look around before we leave too. 

And carry a couple of bricks.  :)

I do know someone who's dog got into her car without her knowing, lay under the back seat as usual, the woman went to work, came out hours later, her old dog was dead.  A really freak thing to happen.  It could have happened to me I hadn't noticed one cat had taken to climbing in my car when the windows were down to snooze on the back seat.
- By Goldmali Date 19.07.13 12:42 UTC
Last Saturday at a show (the hottest show I have EVER experienced, it was 32 C and most of the judging was moved indoors -which was even hotter but at least not in direct sunlight) our van broke down and we had to call the AA out. The AA man said he could not repair it there and then and we had to be taken home on a flat bed truck. (3 hour plus journey.) We pointed out we had 3 large dogs with us, to which the AA replied they would NOT be allowed to travel in the recovery truck with us, we had to leave them in our van. And it was against the law for one of us to travel in the van with them. But hey, we can stop a few times and check on them and you can open the windows a bit. Well I was NOT pleased. In fact I was so outraged I threatened them with everything under the sun. (Hot, tired and defensive of my dogs -I'm not a nice person then LOL.) HOW exactly do I know my dogs are okay when they are travelling ALONE in a van during the hottest part of the day, and I can't be with them? HOW do I know it will be cool enough just because we are moving, as the AC cannot be on? And WHAT if we got stuck in traffic (as it happened many people did upon leaving this show!) so we could not check on them and would not be moving?? 10 minutes in a standstill could have killed them.

In the end we had to wait for 5 hours so by the time the AA arrived the sun had gone down and it was a lot cooler. So it was fine. But this was a very valuable lesson learned -if we break down at a show in hot weather, it is NO good having ANY of the major rescue companies as they all say the same thing. I'm looking into Showstart who on their website claim they  guarantee to allow your pets to travel with you, as in fact they only rescue you if you have animals with you. Be worth having them as an extra service. As far as I am concerned there is no way I will risk my dogs travelling alone on such a hot day and I thought the AA very irresponsible to expect me to. Best part of all -the AA said if my dogs had been GUIDE DOGS they would have been allowed inside their truck. Well we pointed out that not only do you not see many blind people out driving alone (!), but if a blind person was travelling in the AA truck they would not NEED the services of their dog during the journey as all they would do would be to sit there, so what was the difference?
- By Merlot [gb] Date 19.07.13 14:05 UTC
The police dragged a dog out of a car in Exmouth yesterday, not only was it shut in the car but was muzzled and had no water left. IDIOTS. IDIOTS. everywhere people are showing just how stupid they are.
http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/Desperate-dog-set-alarm-police-smashed-car-window/story-19542742-detail/story.html
The owners need a flat £1000 fine and a ban on ever keeping a dog again.
Aileen
- By Boody Date 19.07.13 14:19 UTC
A muzzle???? To me that definitely sounds like they were trying to kill it :(
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 19.07.13 15:51 UTC
This was the story I was refering to merlot.
Locals are baying for blood and desperate to trace the car / owners.

A few weeks ago my partner went shopping. Parked in the parent and child space as he was with our toddler.
He happened to glance at the car parked next to him and noticed a baby (a few months old perhaps) asleep in the carseat in the back of the car. He went into the store and informed security. He waited with the security guard watching the car until a man came out (with a trolleyfull of shopping!!!) Got into the car and drove off.  the security guard was speechless.
Life is made so simple now for us as parents, it was a simple case of removing the whole car seat, strapping it to one of the special  trolleys and doing the shopping...all can be done without disturbing sleeping baby. Why oh why would you leave your baby in the car while you do your weekly shopping??!!
Some people really dont have the sense they were born with
- By Nikita [gb] Date 19.07.13 16:12 UTC
It's astounding how much this is still happening :(  Just yesterday a friend of mine related a story to me, someone her friend knew had gone to one of the music festivals last week/weekend, taken their two dogs with them, camped in the shade but left the dogs tied up inside the tent - when she came back they were both dead :-(

And someone else on another forum had a meeting of a GR club at their premises recently, and was absolutely disgusted to find a car park full of cars with dogs in, no sheeting or reflective covers, in full sun!  If a breed club can't get it right, it's no wonder the GP can't :-(
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 19.07.13 16:19 UTC
ADMIN:  Who deemed it necessary to edit my post to remove the details of the offending vehicle?   

I deliberately posted full details of the vehicle in the vain hope that some member of Champdogs might recognise them as friends/neighbours and let them know of their disapproval.

By removing these details (which are still clearly visible on the photographs on several F/B pages) the full impact of the post has been lost.

I am disappointed in you.

PS :  If anyone would like to have further details of the BMW 360 estate, send me a message!)
- By Jodi Date 19.07.13 16:23 UTC
Apparently at the GR Centenary held at Cirencester last weekend where it was incredibly hot (I was there), they kept having to make announcements about dogs being left in cars. The judging for the show on Sunday was held in a marquee with all the sides raised, so a little cooler out to the direct sunlight, there was a hosepipe nearby for dogs to be showered and the large conifers close by were so much cooler. There was  no need for dogs to be left in a car.
- By tooolz Date 19.07.13 21:38 UTC
People are stupid or cruel ....what other excuse is there?

On last nights news a story about the hot weather mentioned a FOUR week old baby taken to casualty with second degree burns...from a BEACH!
- By Admin (Administrator) Date 20.07.13 12:08 UTC

>Who deemed it necessary to edit my post to remove the details of the offending vehicle?


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- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 20.07.13 18:30 UTC
That's terrible goldmali, when I broke down at crufts the people who eventually came out to get us (7 hour waite) the guy was more than happy to let my girl come in his truck even after she had been barking at him.
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 20.07.13 19:52 UTC
I'm sorry that, after all these years, Admin, you should think that I would carry out a personal or private vendetta.

Definitely my last visit to Champdogs. 
- By marisa [gb] Date 20.07.13 21:59 UTC
I agree with you Lokis Mum - have had several posts deleted by Mods for weird reasons and all very arbitrary......
- By ceejay Date 21.07.13 08:14 UTC
I can understand the reasoning behind it - someone could take it into their heads to have a go at these people if the car was identified - consequences could be alarming - Folks on this forum always seem a sensible lot and I don't think for one minute anyone here would do anything that would bring shame on the forum - but what about the car owners - you hear cases of road rage - what if they turned out to be an unpleasant lot and trouble came from it - As for leaving dogs in cars - I am always amazed at how many people still don't think ahead even though there is so much publicity now - At shows it is still necessary for the organisers to patrol around the cars checking the dogs - it is surprising that they still find cars inadequately ventilated even though we are all dog lovers and are supposed to know what to do. 
- By parrysite [gb] Date 22.07.13 20:38 UTC
I find it bizarre that people still do this! Back in May it was 27 degrees and a matted GR/Lab cross was in the back of a locked car with no windows open and no water. I called the police and told them I was about to smash the window however they sent a police officer but the owner had gone before they got there!
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