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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Marking
- By Sawheaties [gb] Date 31.01.13 17:22 UTC
I am at the end of my tether with my 3 year old male who is quite a "sensitive soul" We recently moved home and I expected some issues but he is marking everywhere. We have a huge inglenook and he started there and to be honest I forgave it as he may have thought he was outside but now he is peeing up the back of my leather sofa, furniture and on the carpet :(

Three of them sleep in the lounge at night and I know every morning I will come down to more marking. If he is in the  kitchen and I go out to the car, I come back and he has lifted his leg on the island.

I am going to try and move them to the kitchen as if he does it in there at least I will be able to clean the tiles; I don't particularly want to bring the crates out again. However I know the kitchen is cool at night and my eldest girl will yap on and off as she can see out of the french windows.

So any suggestions in how to break him of it and secondly any tips on removing the smell from the leather? A friend suggested a belly band, having googled it it appears to be a form of nappy, anyone used this?
- By WolfieStruppi [gb] Date 31.01.13 18:13 UTC
My SIL's little x-breed wore them as he marks everywhere. He still weed with it on so it just contained the damage. She has just moved house and he is worse than ever so is crated when he can't be watched now.

My oldest male GSD started cocking his leg up the kitchen table but I put it down to another dog being in season and he seems to have stopped now but I admit to having a stern word with him. My next step wouldve been to put something like Vick on the table leg as a deterrent but as one of the other dogs sleeps there it wouldnt be fair on her.

Sorry I can't suggest anything re: the leather.
- By Nova Date 31.01.13 18:40 UTC
Think it likely he is feeling insecure and 'not at home' the marking is an unwanted attempt to correct this. IMO scolding him may make him even more concerned and wonder if a long lasting injection 'chemical castration' could help with this, it should make him less worried about standing his ground and protecting his home.
- By dorcas0161 [gb] Date 31.01.13 19:38 UTC
Baby wipes are great for cleaning leather, and I think they are antibacterial so should get rid of the smell. I find fabreeze on carpets is great for getting rid of odours, or you can use a little diluted biological washing liquid.
Could be your boy is just a little unsettled by the move, and is trying to put his mark on things.
If you get rid of the smells it shoud discourage him from going back to the same place.
If he is marking at night, he may not have quite emptied his bladder befroe bedtime, so perhaps stay outside a bit longer with him to make sure he has been. In this cold weather some dogs just run out do a quickie and then dash back in. You may have to get togged up in warm clothes and stand outside with him for a bit untill he settles back in to a routine.
Try and give him plenty of exercise, so that he is tired at night, then he will be more likely to settle and sleep through so less chance he will be wandering about and peeing, also try and get him out as soon as you get up, if he can hear you walking about, going to the bathroom, cleaning your teeth etc. he may have already had a piddle before you get down stairs. Just grab your dressing gown and get him out straight-away and then really praise him when he performs. As he was previously housetrained it should not take long to get him back on track, he has probably just got a bit confused with the move and the interuptions of normal routines.
- By dorcas0161 [gb] Date 31.01.13 19:41 UTC
Forgot to say the older girl who yaps could be disturbing him, or if they can hear foxes or other dogs in the night, I would put them both in the quietest rooms, and but up some black out curtains, or sheets so they can't see anything that will disturb them.
Good Luck and let us know how you get on.
- By furriefriends Date 31.01.13 20:39 UTC
Belly bands seem to be an american thing and I have only heard them being used on toy breeds/ Not because they cant be used on bigger dogs just seems to be the way. I guess it would contain it but not reso;ve the problem
Have you tried dap or adaptil if he is sensitive and upset by the move it may help
- By Sawheaties [gb] Date 31.01.13 22:09 UTC
Thanks all for the replies. I know it is because he is insecure, he has gone from a semi detached in a residential street to a farmhouse in a field; due to the fact we have not got a secure boundary yet they always have to be on a lead when I take them out for a wee.

As soon as I get out of bed I take them out I don't even go to the bathroom!! I'm there in wellies and dressing gown, even when it was snowing :( He does empty quite fully when he goes and when I take him in the paddock he's marking every tree.

In some ways he is more relaxed here than he was at our old place but the marking is the only bad bit that has started.
I do have DAP diffuser on in the kitchen, I may look at a collar. I do not tell him off when he does this ( I do swear in my head especially when he watered the vegetables in the wicker drawer)

I will have a major clean of the carpet with the proheat, a good scrub of the sofa and see if I can encourage him to break the habit.
The only thing that has occured to me is that the lounge is under our bedroom and our nearly 14 year old male sleeps up there with us, he is starting to go a bit senile and pace in the night and sometimes constantly jumps on and off the bed, causing my girl to yap and maybe this is upsetting George, he can hear thuds but not see what is causing it?
- By Goldmali Date 31.01.13 22:25 UTC
Bellybands are brilliant. My daughter moved to her own house and took her two Papillons with her. Now every time she comes to visit, with her dogs, both of them go around peeing everywhere the first thing they do. Can't do a thing about the bitch, but the dog (neutered) gets a belly band slapped on him so he can mark to his heart's content. After a hour or so he's finished doing it and the band can come off and he won't continue.
- By Stooge Date 01.02.13 12:19 UTC

> I don't particularly want to bring the crates out again


Why not?  Not only would it ensure the cleanliness of your home it may also actually help him feel secure again.  You can make crates as cosy and warm as you like as well as preventing sight of the outside world.
- By dollface Date 01.02.13 13:54 UTC
Have you tried leashing him to you? Every where you go so does he & basically re house train him.

That is how I house trained Junior. When we moved to the house we have now he was like 4 yrs old and I thought
since he is male & intact I'd do the same thing. Did it for about a day and no worries- he never lifted once.
Even if I take him to a friends house I'd keep him on leash for the 1st hour to make sure he doesn't lift
and respects there home- always worked.
- By Sawheaties [gb] Date 01.02.13 17:50 UTC
I didn't want to use the crates as I wanted to have the extra space but the kitchen is huge so there is no problem having them up. I will be getting them out of the garage at the weekend and the 3 of them will be sleeping in there from now on.

I gave the sofas a good clean last night and vaxed the carpet and intend to do them a couple more times over the weekend and I didn't find any evidence of him marking.

Thanks all for the suggestions.
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Marking

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