https://sites.google.com/site/furryfriendsanimalrescue/animals-needing-homes/dogs-needing-homes/hope

Just look at what they are recommending exercise for this poor pup.

They must be really stupid people to think this is right :-(

Sorry I apologise not stupid , just not experienced enough to know better.

I read it as two 30min walks per day which isn't excessive

But is this a case of quality out quantity? Probably havent read it properly!
I would foster a dog like this if medical treatment was paid for. Would love to.
I have a house full of mis fits!
lea x

Two half hour walks seems okay; they're not saying two and a half hour walks!

How strange that her eyes reflect differently.

A five/six month old puppy with a serious/ terminal heart condition ?

This is the rescue i got 2 of my rabbits off 9 odd years ago. The second one died only about 8 months ago. I didn't realise they were still on the go as the link i had was gone .
As for the dog. I would rather have a dog that spent the last 3 months of life running around on long walks. Than 5 months of a restricted dog. Also if the condition is terminal the normal amount of exercise. Is void as doing too much won't cause problems in the future as this dog has no. Future.
Sorry i am probably missing something blinding ly obvious as to why i shouldn't think that way
lea x

Must be hard hearted but with such a short expectancy, difficulty in finding the right home & the settling in with strange people, think the kindest thing would to put to sleep. Also with a serious/terminal heart condition wouldn't think it would survive many half hour walks.

I don't understand why her time left is so short.  I have a bitch with a grade 4 - admit that her meds cost me £120 a month, but she is still with me for the time being.

> Must be hard hearted but with such a short expectancy, difficulty in finding the right home & the settling in with strange people, think the kindest thing would to put to sleep

No I don't think you are hard hearted. I agree with you. Why wait for the poor girl to get ill and then drop dead. Why not just let her go now without stress before she goes down hill.
I am sure there are plenty of other dogs out there with a good life expectancy that would benefit from the resources being spent on this dog.

Yes that is my point and not also being let to socialise with other dogs is also a real issue for her.

I don't understand why her time left is so short.  I have a bitch with a grade 4 - admit that her meds cost me £120 a month, but she is still with me for the time being.

And my grade 6 dog lived 7 years longer than the vet thought he would! With as much or as little exercise as HE wanted, rather than what I wanted as quality of life came first.

"Wary of strangers" however -how fair is it to rehome a nervous dog with a bad heart? Stressful indeed.

>how fair is it to rehome a nervous dog with a bad heart

I was wondering that too.  and if she has so  little time, would it not be kinder to do the right thing?

> How strange that her eyes reflect differently.

I'm guessing she has one blue eye... Not common for this cross, but there may be collie or something else in the background.

I know of this rescue and like all rescues they are trying to do their best in a world (and current climate) where everyone is stretched to breaking poin; trying to do 'the right thing'.

You only have to look at the free-ads and local FB pets for sale groups to see how many animals (all species) are being pumped out by the thousand for little or no reason.... sometimes it's clearly not for money but still they are being born, bought and sold and resold! I recently joined such a local FB group and it has opened my eyes even wider than Scumtree and the others have done before.

I don't see how a 30min walk twice a day is excessive.. 15min out and 15mins back.. less than a mile.. a general plod on lead for toilet duties..

>> How strange that her eyes reflect differently.
>I'm guessing she has one blue eye... Not common for this cross, but there may be collie or something else in the background.

It's nothing to do with the iris colour: what is strange is that my liver dals' eyes have always reflected red and the black dals' eyes have always reflected green/blue because of the genetic pigmentation - this bitch's eyes are one of each. There have been several reported cases in humans where parents have noticed this in a child's photos, and on examination it's been discovered they have tumours - it's been the reflective oddity that's saved the child's life.

>  How strange that her eyes reflect differently.

> I'm guessing she has one blue eye... Not common for this cross, but there may be collie or something else in the background.

We had one like this years ago. Yes, he was a collie x. He had one blue eye and one brown one. The blue eye shone red, and the brown eye shone green in the dark. No eye problems of any sort and lived to a ripe old age.

I know of them as they are near to me. - wopuld imagione they are taking advice from the vet not sure who they use. Given what some are saying about their own dogs with problems surley the big question is do you try and rehome and give her a chance or do you pts now as there are so many health dogs being pts due to know homes. A hard one. As for the exercise I would worry about keeping her socialised if keeping her away from others of she is to get a chance to live she needs to have quality of life as someone said

I dont think 2 30minute walks a day maximum is excessive. They are clearly well informed going on the advice of the cariologist. I disagree that it would be kinder to put to sleep. The information states that she is a normal puppy and once out of her shell will be a loyal dog with a strong bond to handler. If someone is willing to give her a fantastic 3 months then what  a lovely way to end her life.would be hard to welcome that kind of dog to your home knowing youre on borrowed time and would need to be very special people especially as she must be the only dog in a home, but not an impossible task. Really hope this story has a happy ending.

I can see where your coming from LJS, if one of us were told that our dog ( an adolescent as well who is not likely to walk without excitement) will probably be dead in 12 weeks and it's heart will give way anytime we would be too scared to give it any amount of exercise as we would know it would cause the end of it.

2 x 30 mins is not excessive for an adolescent, but an hours pressure on a heart about to go - who would chance it?

But.......... if you are looking to give this dog a good quality of life, then you'd do it to treat the dog as normal as possible and you probably could because the attachment is not going to be there the same, whoever takes the dog on is doing so because they are being kind and wish to give him a good quality of life like a hospice, you're taking on a dog because it is dying, you've got to be pretty tough to do that as we are all so heartbroken when our dogs die.

Although I'm very intrigued how a grade 4 = 12 weeks of life myself?

What a shame, will be very hard to find her a home given the conditions they have stated (no other dogs, not even to meet them during exercise, no children etc) plus her life expectancy. I would say that if the potential adopter has a sensible dog, bring them to meet and see how they get on? Just because she was snappy during her season (not at all uncommon), does that really mean she can't live with/meet other dogs?

Tempting to wrap dogs in cotton wool but I have seen that side of it and thought it was horrible. A former boyfriend's mum had a collie (plus another 3) who had a heart condition so she literally lived her life in their bedroom. No walks, no play, no meeting anyone who came to the house, everything to be as quiet as possible for her - a very sad life for a lovely dog. I'm sure she would rather have had a shorter life with quality than such a joyless existence.

TBH if her life is to be so short, I don't know why one of the rescue workers doesn't take her home for a few weeks and give her a nice home life after all they took her on. It seems strange that she is up for adoption at all? No-one looks at rescue pages and thinks that is the dog for me only 12 weeks with her, who are they honestly going to find? At the end of the day you're looking at a dead dog according to the vet, having to deal with the death on a walk or in the home...... not nice for anyone. :-( Who'd volunteer for that, and if the vet is wrong and it is not a quick drop down death with no warning but instead her hanging on in there needing a rush to the vets with all the expense, who wants to willing go to a rescue and cope with all that?

If the rescue can't find someone there to give her a nice warm home and some love for a while it is a poor do, otherwise I agree that the kindest thing is to have her pts rather than her spend her last days in a kennel with other dogs all barking and howling next to her.

Totally agree Carrington but perhaps some of the rescue workers already have a dog/children at home or visiting so can't help. I agree it is hard to take on a dog who has such a grim outlook (also the reason a lot of Oldies get overlooked) but to make the last months of her life the best ones would be the kindest thing anyone could do. We would have been willing to help but have 8 dogs and take in other people's to look after so we wouldn't even be considered.

> At the end of the day you're looking at a dead dog according to the vet, having to deal with the death on a walk or in the home...... not nice for anyone. :-( Who'd volunteer for that, and if the vet is wrong and it is not a quick drop down death with no warning but instead her hanging on in there needing a rush to the vets with all the expense, who wants to willing go to a rescue and cope with all that?

I live with that possibility with Paige every day (DCM), and I lost Soli suddenly to the same thing.  If I was suitable I would take Hope on in a second but like marisa, I have 8 dogs here so I'm not right for her at all.

Hope hasn't been looking long IIRC, I don't think she will be either.

I would take her on if the rescue paid for vets treatments. I would give her a loving normal home. But to me a loving normal home is fun, other dogs, kids if okay with them. If that means she only lives 2 months instead of 6 then quality over quantity.
I am probably totally wrong in my thoughts.
Lea :-)

Lee
I would think exactly the same and surprisingly (or not) there are many kind people who do take on dogs just like this. I also would not be at all surprised that if no one comes forward pretty quickly one of the volunteers will take her home, they might just have a problem with the single dog rule, although if someone has a quiet oldie even that might be revised. Should she get a chance? Yes, I think so.

> I would think exactly the same and surprisingly (or not) there are many kind people who do take on dogs just like this.

Completely agree with you. Like many rescues nowadays, I'm not sure this particular one has kennels of their own - but instead has a network of fosterers; or they will take on a dog that is in kennels, and needs out ASAP.

JG I am not sure if I feel proud or naffed off to be accused of being a troll as it is the first time this has happened to me LOL :-D

Thanks for coming to my defense although you maybe accused of being a fellow troll !!

The woman posted a long really arsy comment, with a threatening tone, at the end but I think she's seen sense and deleted it. A page where if you aren't all gushy and "Oh how sweeeeeeet!" then you get abused; proper rescues are usually more realistic.

two half hour walks onlead, I don't think that's excessive, although it seems harsh I question keeping this poor dog alive when she has so many issues and perhaps putting another dog to sleep who has a long life ahead and none of the issues :-( heartbreaking decisions sadly

Charming language now :-(  what a horrible way to discuss a situation.

Oh dear they are a bit over-sensitive and downright rude! Too many touchy feely, gushy 'you are wonderful' (but don't expect me to help you) types there for me. TBH any serious rescue that would allow that amount of bad language on their page is not serious enough for me! You ask a simple question and get a mouthful of abuse from the rescue? hmmmm

Absolutely and I have now been banned for daring to offer an alternative opinion or way of looking at things in a very polite way but they have sad they are justified in the language they used because I was so abusive and accusing them of being animal abusers :-o

Anyway they can profanicate to their hearts content now as will leave them to their own world whilst I continue in my real world lol !

>Too many touchy feely, gushy 'you are wonderful' (but don't expect me to help you) types there for me.

Oh spot on M! My thoughts exactly.

Oh Lucy, I jet washed the screen with my mouthful of tea laughing at you being called a Troll!

I know it has driven me to search on the tinternet for bridges for sale all day !