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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / affix.
- By PERADUASTRA [gb] Date 06.10.12 10:52 UTC
Can I use my current affix on my new puppy.(Same Breed)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 06.10.12 11:08 UTC
If it's a puppy you're buying in then you can add your affix at the end of the name registered by the breeder after you've transferred it into your name.
- By Trialist Date 06.10.12 11:08 UTC
A puppy not bred by you? Yes you can, you just tag it onto the end of the name ... DOGGY'S NAME of AFFIX or at or over or similar :-)  I did this with a few of my dogs, think it's about £12 to add onto an already registered dog.

Use a Form 8 http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/kcforms

That seems too easy ... did I misunderstand the question?! ... Not used to this sunshine, it may have faddled my brain ;-)

Edited to say, outrageous, it's gone up to £15 :-O
- By Trialist Date 06.10.12 11:11 UTC
Aww, snap, same timing :-)
- By Goldmali Date 06.10.12 11:27 UTC
Just remember to add it before any shows as if you get a stud book number, you can't change the name after this.
- By suejaw Date 06.10.12 16:01 UTC
Just adding mine and outraged at the charge!!  Honestly they do take the mick sometimes..
- By Goldmali Date 06.10.12 16:18 UTC
It does add up, doesn't it. The last one I did involved transferring puppy to my name, adding my kennel name, then transferring her to joint names as she was to be co-owned with breeder but in order to add my kennel name of course I had to have sole ownership first. Now am about to do it again (minus the joint ownership), transfer fee and adding kennel name makes it very expensive.
- By amanda j [gb] Date 06.10.12 20:31 UTC
A puppy not bred by you?

If you have the stud dog can you not put your affix on the end of the puppys name your having when the bitches owner registers it ?
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 06.10.12 22:39 UTC
The registered name has to be 24 letters or less so can't see 2 affix and pup name fitting,when new owner adds affix at the end the number of letters doesn't matter.
- By Goldmali Date 06.10.12 22:50 UTC
Never heard you could do that. If you try using the name checker you will instantly be told the name conflicts with an active kennel name within the breed.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 07.10.12 06:54 UTC

>If you have the stud dog can you not put your affix on the end of the puppys name your having when the bitches owner registers it ?


Not unless the breeder has a registered shared 'interest' in the affix.
- By gwen [gb] Date 07.10.12 08:32 UTC

> If you have the stud dog can you not put your affix on the end of the puppys name your having when the bitches owner registers it ?


Are you think of the rule which allows your affix to be included in the name if you bred both of the pup's parents?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 07.10.12 10:12 UTC

> Are you think of the rule which allows your affix to be included in the name if you bred both of the pup's parents?


but even then it only goes on after when you apply for it.
- By JAY15 [gb] Date 07.10.12 10:51 UTC
Surely the 24 letters applies only to the original registered name. I've just checked in some of my old catalogues and there are plenty over 30 characters (phew, because otherwise I'd be struggling to transfer my puppy int0 my affix).
- By Goldmali Date 07.10.12 11:21 UTC
Surely the 24 letters applies only to the original registered name.

Exactly -but somebody suggested it should be possible to register a pup including the stud dog owner's kennel name at first registration by the breeder, at which point the kennel name would have been a name and not a kennel name, so counting. (I.e. say a breeder had used my dog and then registered a pup I was having as Kennelname Fido Goldmali.) But it doesn't work like that anyway. :)
- By JAY15 [gb] Date 07.10.12 11:30 UTC
Thanks Goldmali :-)!
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 07.10.12 12:04 UTC
When researching available puppy names last year I wanted my affix Blythe Spirit but Blythe is someones affix and it was rejected, if I left the "e" off Blythe it was OK yet saying the name would sound the same and give no indication to the spelling.
- By marisa [gb] Date 07.10.12 19:30 UTC
If I was the affix holder of 'Blythe' I would be very cross (and contest it) if someone were allowed to use 'Blyth'. My affix is Aramisty and it would be the same as someone being allowed to have Aramisti, in my opinion.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 07.10.12 19:42 UTC
but it isn't blyth being requested as an affix, but the word blyth as part of a name, instead of Affix blythe spirit, Affix Blyth Spirit. 

Using a normal word for an affix rather does impinge on others ability to use words they find pleasing.
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 07.10.12 19:54 UTC
Yes the request was my Affx Blythe Spirit, so Rhodach's Blythe Spirit, that was rejected but Rhodach's Blyth Spirit was accepted,  don't think Blyth Spirit without my affix would have been though.
- By Saffronsmith [gb] Date 09.10.12 11:46 UTC
In my breed at the moment there is a dog being shown with two affixes one after the other and then the name ie. Affixone Affixtwo Little Dawgie, although the dog was originally named and shown under the name Affixtwo Little Dawgie. 

The sire of the dog belongs to the Affixone kennel and the dam to Affixtwo, although this may have had a breeding terms contract connected as the dam is of Affixone breeding. 

Any ideas how this situation can happen? I'd have thought that the dog would have had to be Affixtwo Little Dawgie at Affixone...  it's obviously an amicable arrangement as the two kennels are pals.  Just curious!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 09.10.12 11:58 UTC

> Any ideas how this situation can happen?


Yes if someone bred both parents of a dog, they can then put their affix in front of the dogs registered name when they transfer it to their name, so it will be as you say the affix of the breeder of both parents, followed by the affix of the breeder of the litter, followed by the chosen individual name.
- By rachelsetters Date 09.10.12 12:00 UTC

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Just remember to add it before any shows as if you get a stud book number, you can't change the name after this.


If done super quick you can add after - think its 28 days? but don't quote me on that - but had a friend whose young bitch won the rcc and I thought she couldn't do it but on investigation if done superquick is possible to do! :)
- By Saffronsmith [gb] Date 09.10.12 12:38 UTC
Yes if someone bred both parents of a dog, they can then put their affix in front of the dogs registered name when they transfer it to their name, so it will be as you say the affix of the breeder of both parents, followed by the affix of the breeder of the litter, followed by the chosen individual name.

Thank you Barbara.  I get it now.  The pups must have been KC  registered then run on before the original breeder made their choice, then renamed.  The dog is now owned by somebody else... is this typical of a breeding contract?  
- By Brainless [gb] Date 09.10.12 12:49 UTC
I'd say these days it is less and less likely that both parents in a mating are bred by the same person, and then they would need to buy in one of the pups.

In the past with large kennels bitches may well have been sold on the basis that they came back to use a stud of the breeder, as they may well have had dogs more loosely related than in a tight family line which most will have now, due to keepign smalelr numbers.

For example any dog I breed is not likely to be able to be used by me on my own stock for some generations (more likely to use their offspring) as would be too closely related. 

The only time both parents of a litter were bred by me ti was a close marting of half brother and sister where both parents sires were unrelated imports.

Breeders in the past with large numbers of dogs may well have bred several lines.
- By PERADUASTRA [gb] Date 10.10.12 10:06 UTC
Thanks every one it seems 15 pounds is now the problem!!Bye.
- By LouiseDDB [gb] Date 10.10.12 12:23 UTC
Ive just applied for an affix and recently bred a litter when my affix comes back and all done and dusted can i add my affix to my pup keepers name so XXXXXXXXX kissy Suzuki or will she be Kissy Suzuki by XXXXXXXX?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.10.12 15:56 UTC
If you bred her you should be able to add your affix to the front of her name.
- By marisa [gb] Date 10.10.12 16:08 UTC
"but it isn't blyth being requested as an affix, but the word blyth as part of a name, instead of Affix blythe spirit, Affix Blyth Spirit."

It doesn't make any difference, you still can't use someone's affix as part of a KC name. So, I wouldn't expect to see, for example, Affix Aramisty Perfect One, as a KC name as my affix is Aramisty.
- By LouiseDDB [gb] Date 10.10.12 16:24 UTC
yes this is true, i applied to have a pup called driving miss daisy but couldnt as there is an affix missdaises. Thanks Barbara another fee to the KC must be nearly £300 this month
Topic Dog Boards / Showing / affix.

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