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Topic Other Boards / Foo / 60 min makeover or complete building project ??
- By codysholasmum [gb] Date 12.05.12 11:07 UTC
Hopefully soon will have a few pennies to spend on our 3 bed end of terrace house.
So what to do first ?
Need a new kitchen + white goods etc.
Have a downstairs bathroom + toilet,as we get older feel that we should have at least a toilet upstairs ,so do we move bathroom upstairs (into smallest bedroom) as all kids have left home .
boiler is on its last legs so do we go combi or stay with the type that we have had for 30+ years .
which do we do first ?
my thinking is start at the top & work down .OH says kitchen first .
So ladies & gents what are your thoughts/experiences.
- By Lea Date 12.05.12 11:14 UTC
Get quotes for doing it all and listen to the workmens advice (just remeber that dont alwas go for the cheapest!!! Go for recomendations, and try and get more than one recommendation for one workman, as standards can vary!!!
The workmen will be able to advise at which order to do it all in but there is no point in redoing the kitchen and then finding out that the boiler cannot be replaced like for like and needs moving into the middle of your newly fitted kitchen!!!!
Or getting a boiler that will not cope with moving the bathroom etc etc
If you can get it all done at the same time then do that, as means more less in one go but for a shorter length of time :)
HTH
Lea :) :)
- By Stooge Date 12.05.12 11:18 UTC
Regarding the combi boiler, what is your water pressure like?  Whatever your pressure is like the combi sure won't improve it! :)
If the bathroom stays down stairs this should not be a problem and it is very nice and economical to have hot water as and when you want it.  However, if  you take the bathroom upstairs you may find it takes forever to run a bath.  Again, may not be a problem if you are only an occasional bath taker but you might also find it better to have a electric shower as otherwise you may need to have a power shower which can be ecologically and economically unsound.
Why not get a plumber in on the pretext of pricing things out and pick his brains? :)  (I see Lea had the same thought, naughty girl)
- By Charlie Brown [gb] Date 12.05.12 12:02 UTC
I've lived in two houses with Combi boilers and both have been awful for getting hot water.

Initially I thought in the first house it was how it had been plumbed in but this house is worse.
The heatings great but to get hot water when the heatings off its a nightmare! It takes three bowls of cold water before the hot reaches the tap.

It's been checked by more than one plumber and alls ok...it's just the way it is apparently.

Thank goodness we're not on a meter!

If I were you I would think very carefully and do loads of research before spending your money on a replacement Combi.
- By shivj [gb] Date 12.05.12 12:02 UTC
Start with the boiler! There are many many rules about new boilers and they could influence all your other plans so I strongly recommend making decisions about the boiler first. Then you can plan your other jobs around that. It doesn't mean you actually have to put in the new boiler first but you need to know what it will entail. If for example, you find you have to fit a new gas supply pipe after doing your new kitchen floor, you won't be pleased etc!
As for the kitchen v bathroom decision, moving a bathroom upstairs is a significant layout and use of space change and may influence your plans for your new kitchen. I'd want to do that first, freeing up all downstairs space, before finalising decisions about my kitchen.
Exciting times!
- By dogs a babe Date 12.05.12 12:50 UTC
Ditto - start with the boiler.  That is also going to be relevant to the type of shower you can or want to fit.  A power shower will need good water pressure and might require you to look at pumps/water tanks too so it makes sense to consider your wet pipe work as one job...

Then, as someone else has already said, you can rethink the space you have available downstairs.  Shrinking a downstairs bathroom to a cloakroom might give you options to alter your kitchen/utilty room space AND both may also require a plumber to help you move pipes and radiators.  Plumbers are expensive but do like meaty jobs to work on and are more likely to give good rates for larger jobs. 

As an aside we used MyBuilder.com to help us find tradespeople last time we had work done and it was incredibly effective.  You only get people who are looking for, or available for work, and I was really impressed.  You must check them out, as you usually would, but we were able to choose an excellent plumber, builder and plasterer after spending weeks tying to get quotes from the usual sources
Topic Other Boards / Foo / 60 min makeover or complete building project ??

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