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Can you tell me how much garlic you would advise for a toy breed puppy and when to start it, as a flea prevention ?
Also, I want to keep puppy and house treatment just in case so recommendation of brand would be appreciated.
I use garlic & Fenugreek from Dorwest, I would consult them re dose. I am at National Terrier tomorrow (leaving late this pm) , if you can pm me breed and weight I'll ask when I buy my bits tomorrow, Brian & Carmel are very helpful.
Last year I admit to having an outbreak in the house (think it was the cat) I now only have carpet in the dining room but I had to treat the carpet with Indorex which for someone who doesn't like chemicals is a big thing, it was reccomended by my hoemopathic vet who said once you've tried everything this will stop the cycle and it did!
I have also tried "Billy No Mates" a herbal concoction you put in the water or food but it made one of mine loose.
Thanks for your reply but I was hoping to feed fresh garlic rather than a tablet as it is a puppy.
I will perhaps wait until it is a bit older and try 1/4 of a segment and see how we go .
Ok no problem, I suppose I am just a bit lazy by feeding the tablets although I do crush them and mix in with their raw food and veg.
By Nova
Date 06.04.12 12:59 UTC

I would worry about advising the use of raw garlic as it is related to the onion and as far as I know will also carry the chemical that is poisonous to dogs.
Do you actually have trouble with fleas? If you've previously kept dogs with little or no problems then I wouldn't worry too much about prevention - I haven't seen a flea on one of my dogs for years and years. That said I do give garlic and fenugreek from Dorwest Herbs for other things...
Do you raw feed? If so you can add some fresh garlic every time you blitz liver or veg, that way you aren't giving large amounts. Alternatively have a look at Garlic Juice: it's fairly inexpensive, can be put in drinking water or sprayed onto food and is perfect for putting on coats. If my dogs seem to be picking up more ticks than usual I spray them daily with garlic juice and it seems to keep the buggers at bay :)
By Nova
Date 06.04.12 14:01 UTC

To be honest I think dog owners only have a problem when there are cats or foxes about. Hedgehogs also carry fleas but they seem to be brief visitors to our dogs and soon move on.
Back to garlic when I asked about it some while ago I am sure I was told that the pills and liquids had the poisonous chemical removed but can't remember now the details only know that members of the onion family can be lethal to dogs so I would take very good care not to give to a puppy.

I also wouldnt feed fresh garlic ... agree with Nova and also because you would get the garlic smell... which you dont with dorwest product.
I give all my dogs garlic & F everyday as helps the dog to ward off infection as well as fleas , this is on the advice of my vet who prefers to treat with natural products... he told me that you cant give too much ... I give 2 tablets daily 1 morn and 1 even and double the dose if they are unwell ( also on the advice of my vet)
> I also wouldnt feed fresh garlic ... agree with Nova and also because you would get the garlic smell... which you dont with dorwest product.
Try telling that to mine who burp garlic breath after their G & F tabs!!
The Garlic Juice I recommend is also a Dorwest product and it does have a strong smell, and taste, BUT it's this that wards off ticks. If you don't mind the smell then your your puppy won't :)
Notes on garlic and onion poisoning. I've copied this from the net BUT I've seen the same information in a variety of sources...
Onions and garlic are other dangerous food ingredients that cause sickness in dogs, cats and also livestock. Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate. Onions are more of a danger.
Pets affected by onion toxicity will develop haemolytic anaemia, where the pet's red blood cells burst while circulating in its body. At first, pets affected by onion poisoning show gastroenteritis with vomiting and diarrhoea. They will show no interest in food and will be dull and weak. The red pigment from the burst blood cells appears in an affected animal's urine and it becomes breathless. The breathlessness occurs because the red blood cells that carry oxygen through the body are reduced in number.
The poisoning occurs a few days after the pet has eaten the onion. All forms of onion can be a problem including dehydrated onions, raw onions, cooked onions and table scraps containing cooked onions and/or garlic. Left over pizza, Chinese dishes and commercial baby food containing onion, sometimes fed as a supplement to young pets, can cause illness.
Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion
While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness.
>Try telling that to mine who burp garlic breath after their G & F tabs!!<
I have a boy who burps a lot .. never noticed it but will be giving him a wide berth after his feeds from now on ...LOL
By Nova
Date 06.04.12 16:26 UTC

Thanks dogs a babe, knew I had read it somewhere, personally I would not feed it to my puppies but it is up to the indevidual owner.
Think sometimes we think because something is natural it is harmless where as that could not be further from the truth.
Thanks for all your replies.
I don't have a flea problem at the moment but I had a real problem after bringing a cat home from a cattery once so I want to avoid a problem with a dog in the future !
Think I will avoid the fresh garlic and see how we go and if we get any visitors first.
By Nova
Date 07.04.12 11:23 UTC

Give your cat a spray before you let it into the house, it is often cats that cause the problem because if they go out they mix with other cats and become infected and bring it back home, it is the same with worms it is often cats that cause infection in humans rather than dogs but for some reason it is always dogs you hear about and the contamination of the veg patch or litter trays in the kitchen seem to go un-remarked.

Most fleas found on dogs are Cat fleas, with the dog flea now quite rare. Cat fleas are quite happy to bite anyone and unlike some other types are not host specific, like Hedgehog, rabbit and Dog fleas.
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