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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / DAP diffuser for house move
- By ali-t [gb] Date 03.01.12 18:26 UTC
Many of you will be aware of my rott boy who finds life pretty difficult.  If Autism/Aspergers in dogs existed then he would definitely have a diagnosis.  He really struggles with things out of his routine but responds quite aggressively.  New sights and sounds freak him out and I think it will really upset him moving to a new house and area, especially a house that has previously had dogs living in it.

I am wondering if investing in some DAP diffusers may help?  He has a recent couple of incidents a few months ago where he marked in the house,thankfully it was isolated but I think he will try to mark throughout the new house and will be generally upset by the 'newness' of everything.

Any other suggestions of anything i can do to help him adjust?
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 03.01.12 18:35 UTC
I would have a word with your vet and see if they can prescribe something to keep him chilled out leading up to and for a while after the move.

I have seen Rescue Remedy mentioned on here but don't know if it would work in this situation.

Hopefully someone will be able to make a suggestion to help.
- By suejaw Date 03.01.12 18:37 UTC
I put one in when I moved, however I don't know if it helped or not with my boy. I was thinking that Zylkene maybe worth looking at, not cheap but would be more of a consideration if he is anxious about change..
- By ali-t [gb] Date 03.01.12 20:21 UTC
He is due his booster so I will ask and see if they suggest anything.  thanks
- By wendy [gb] Date 03.01.12 20:24 UTC
It might be worth trying this product http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3&idcategory=3
You do need to start using it several weeks before the big event though.
I have used it on one of my girls whose is anxious/nervous as we had a couple of months of building work going on last year.  It did seem to help her.
- By ali-t [gb] Date 03.01.12 20:45 UTC
It is less than 2 weeks until I move so might not be enough time but I like the idea of something natural.
- By MsTemeraire Date 03.01.12 21:12 UTC
What about Dorwest Skullcap & Valerian tablets, plus Tincture? The tablets give a good "background" calmness, while the tincture works as a top up for especially stressful times (such as during firework displays etc).
- By tadog [gb] Date 03.01.12 21:19 UTC
I was worried that my old dog would find my house move too much about 6 yrs ago. it wasnt, i am pretty sure that because i introduced her to my new home once all of the furniture ect was moved in it was already familiar to her. hope your move goes well
- By ali-t [gb] Date 03.01.12 21:33 UTC
Dorwest did cross my mind.  Hopefully with there being no buses, hardly any cars and just the odd tractor in our new country retreat will take the edge off his crazyness lol

I have to phone the vet tomorrow to sort out his booster so will ask when I am there.
- By Jo_Roxy_Jaz [gb] Date 03.01.12 23:32 UTC
I wish I had seen this post a couple of months ago! We moved (from town to country) just recently, and my setter has taken it badly, she has never been heavy but lost weight initially and is now only just back to her normal weight.

She has a phobia of the garden! The last place I lived had an open paved yard and was not enclosed by fence but borders and small walls so was fairly open. The garden we have now is small and enclosed by fence on one side large shed at end and house on the other. She has a major fear of grass in the garden - grass anywhere else is fine, fields etc. She will still not set foot on the grass, if you put her on it, she runs off like you have put her on hot coals!

Although it appears that it is the grass she can't stand she doesn't like going in the garden at all and when we moved here in November she started toileting in the house as if not house trained. I have taken her back to square one and stand outside with her until she goes, as if she has a choice she will still go in the house. We have seen her go to the toilet outside of her own accord on one of her 'good' days where she will go out on her own and now I have to send her to this place and guard the back door so she cannot go back in (there is a dog flap that she can squeeze through if she is desperate) and she is back to getting her treats once she has toileted outside.

And another thing, she is exactly the same at a friends house where we dog sit regularly, okay on slabs (like we used to have) but won't go on grass.

Anyone heard of anything like this before? All I can think of is that it is the fact that she is not used to being on grass in enclosed spaces!

Sorry to go a bit off piste, but the theme of dogs that don't cope well with change set my mind buzzing!
- By MsTemeraire Date 04.01.12 00:54 UTC
Jo-Roxy, all I can think of is to build a positive experience with the new garden, maybe taking her out on lead and encouraging her to sniff and mark, hide some treats for her to find, play games?  Maybe throw a handful of kibble on the lawn, stay with her and encourage.
- By chaumsong Date 04.01.12 01:40 UTC
I think Zylkene is definitely worth a try, I've had great results with it, both at fireworks time for my noise sensitive collies and when having visitors to stay with my Mr Beastly :-)
- By japmum [gb] Date 04.01.12 20:52 UTC
Cheapest place that I have seen for Zylkene is pet drugs online. Have used this with one of my chins who like your dog can't cope with a change of routine very well.I have always said that if he were a child he would be on the autistic spectrum.

Have to be honest though and say that I didn't see a marked change in his behaviour but did notice a slight improvement when I used a dap spray on his bedding and i also sprayed it on my clothing as he is a permanent fixture by my side in the house. also bought this from the above supplier.

Hope you find something to suit your boys' needs  without having to spend a small fortune in the process
- By ali-t [gb] Date 05.01.12 20:22 UTC
Thanks for all the input.  I will do a bit of reading about zyklene online and take the list of options when we go on Wednesday for boosters and see what the vet has to say.
- By allrev [gb] Date 11.01.12 19:33 UTC
My dog suffered from PTS after tail amputation and we tried her on two different types of herbal remedy but didn't make a dramatic difference so went back to DAP collar. I've used the DAP spray, collar and diffuser and the best by far is the collar. This worked both for her PTS and to calm my crazy/ mentally ill dog on scary occasions and buy online to save some pennies. Hope all goes well
- By happyhoundgirl [gb] Date 11.01.12 20:19 UTC
Just read this so might have missed it but for the setter try some seeking games using REALLY high value food rewards.

This can be quite common in developing youngsters. I have always used seeking games and moved the food nearer or further from the house depending on the issues.The joy of the food and having your attention completely usually resolves it in about 14 days. Seems to be fairly common in retrievers this type of behaviour. 
- By ali-t [gb] Date 11.01.12 20:46 UTC
we went to the vet tonight and he wasn't keen to give him anything that might 'drug' him in any way as it could potentially make him worse longer term.  I bought a DAP diffuser but might also get the spray or collar to add a bit of oomph
- By Jo_Roxy_Jaz [gb] Date 11.01.12 21:14 UTC
Thanks Ms Terraine and Happyhoundgirl. I do know the things to do and unfortunately it could be steak thrown on the grass and it wouldn't make a difference! This is the dog that will turn her nose up at raw chicken if she doesn't feel like it!

She will now go out with a little push and will wee in the garden and yesterday did her first number 2 in the garden - yay! No mess in the house at all. Will still not set foot on the grass, but doesn't really matter because she has chosen a rather large, raised up vegetable box to do her business in. We had seen her go there a few times so I just took her back to there and waited. It was a battle of wills for a week or so, but she will go now without too much trouble if I make it clear we don't go back in until she performs. Then she gets a treat inside.
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