Hi, Some of you may remember my ongoing story with my breeder.....this has been going on since December last year......my bullmastiff is 1 year old on Sunday....

I had numerous issues with the behaviour of my breeder and had to involve solicitors regards my KC paperwork.....

I posted a few weeks ago to say that I am relocating to the USA in January and wanted to register my bully with the USKC but then read the endorsement on the certificate stating not for export......

I contacted KC to explain that I had not signed anything at the time or had the endorsement explained to me or agreed to it and therefore felt the restriction was once again another error on the unprofessional manner in which my breeder had behaved.

I wrote to the KC explaining in full all the heartache and the hassle I had been through and the costs involved for solicitors and vet bills to have vaccinations etc done that should have been done as part of the advert and to my shock and horror I received a response yesterday from the KC ......and I quote " we understand and acknowledge that the endorsement was placed in a manner that is not in accordance with the rules and regulations of the KC " however we are simply not able to remove this without contacting the breeder........

I find this astonishing.......the fact that this breeder clearly behaved in a very unprofessional manner and has broken the rules of the KC club and as a result I have suffered both emotionally and monetary means nothing and he appears to have more rights than me.....

Well why bother with the KC club ???.....I am very disappointed....I thought they were there to uphold good standard regards breeding and the manner of the breeders....well clearly not !!

Before I get responses from you guys on here believe me I totally understand why the endorsements are placed and understand that these should not be simply removed on a whim BUT in my case I believe this is an exception....

I was going to take the time to write back to the KC club but why should I bother.....they clearly have no thought or care for responsible caring owners and a shifty breeder is more important!!!

I have to say that I have only heard the rules regarding endorsements being acknowledged in writing in order to be upheld being applied to the breeding and registering of puppies in this country so it may well be not applicable to the export and registering endorsement. 
I really don't know but if it is the case I think I can understand it as so many countries do not have very good standards of animal welfare and the KC would therefore be, perhaps, more concerned about breeding animals leaving our shores without the full consent of the breeder despite this breeder not being straight with their promises and tardy with paperwork.

Kimbo - the KC have just said that they are going to contact the breeder. They must give the breeder the chance to refute your allegations and give the breeder the opportunity to produce a signed contract from you acknowledging the endorsements. If the breeder can't do this, then I expect the KC will lift the endorsements.

however we are simply not able to remove this without contacting the breeder........

Kimbo this is the correct procedure though, the breeder has to be contacted and has to give permission or even clarify that the procedures were not properly discussed and also has to answer as to whether what you are saying is correct, for all the KC know it could be someone just trying to pull a fast one, that does happen frequently with endorsements, the KC need to sort the wood from the trees.

Don't give up heart wait for all responses to be given and for the KC to decide after their investigation. :-)

Ditto ridgie :-)

Thanks for your reply Stooge......just wanted to point out that my bully is purely a loveable family pet and I do not have the knowledge, expertise or capabilities to breed from him....he will always be just "my baby".....the only reason I want to have him registered in the US KC is that it opens up lots of events and clubs you can be members of if you are registered and  I am keen to involve him in as much socialising in his new life as we are....I understand your comment about responsible breeders not wanting their animals to leave these shores but.....he was not a responsible breeder.......

> however we are simply not able to remove this without contacting the breeder........
>

I missed that bit! 

Again....thanks guys......maybe I just feel bitter and twisted after all the hassle and that his opinion means so much now.....the fact he named my dog " NO MORE NONSENSE" ........gives you all the idea of the type of person he is......that was his final dig ......I did not know the name or even had the chance to discuss this until I finally received the certificate.......

Of course they need to contact the breeder as they need both sides of the situation.

Have you actually contacted the breeder to lift the endorsement, if not that is your first step, and quite rightly the Kennel club will only intervene if there is an issue then.

As it stands they will be asking the breeder to provide evidence that they put the endorsements on properly and have a signed agreement.

They can't simply just override the breeder without their knowledge purely on your say so.

Yes, Once again no answers to calls, texts, emails etc.......no surprise really !

Make sure you write and list the contact attempts made.

If we, as breeders, are to have any confidence in the KC endorsment scheme - the breeder must be the only one to say if this endorsment should be lifted.

the only reason I want to have him registered in the US KC is that it opens up lots of events and clubs you can be members of if you are registered and  I am keen to involve him in as much socialising in his new life as we are...

Is that really so? Such as what? Surely people must be able to do obedience and similar for fun with dogs not registered -lots of mongrels over there as well as here??

> Is that really so? Such as what? Surely people must be able to do obedience and similar for fun with dogs not registered -lots of mongrels over there as well as here??

No A lot of US competitions are limited to registered pedigree dogs

If we, as breeders, are to have any confidence in the KC endorsment scheme - the breeder must be the only one to say if this endorsment should be lifted.

In response to this comment.......I again agree IF he was a responsible breeder. The fact the he did not abide by the KC rules and regulations and yet he has the deciding factor.....

I know it his word against mine but I again feel like the villain here as I would not have gone to the lengths I did and paid the costs I did if this was not a fact.....

Oh well, let's hope justice does prevail......otherwise I lose again!

Oh well, let's hope justice does prevail......otherwise I lose again!

I am sure if you follow the correct procedure you will win out in the end, just because the breeder you chose acted in an unprofessional manner you can't expect the KC to. Provided your breeder can't produce a document with your signature showing you were aware of the enforcements the KC will remove them.

That's why I love coming to this forum when I need help......all of you always keep me calm ......thank you

Just tagging on the end, but would this qualify as an export? Appreciate you're moving to the US and taking your boy with you, but I thought export would be selling him to another overseas person? Seems harsh if it's applied when you emigrate.

Just a question as I have no specific knowledge or experience of this.

Ownership doesn't have to change; if you just want to take your dog abroad as a pet you don't need an Export Pedigree, but if you want to register it with another kennel club so that you can take part in their activities then you need a verified Export Pedigree from our KC.

Hello all......just wanted to bring you all up to date.....for those of you who know this thread......victory is mine! For those of you who don't .....I hope you learn from my experience......Perserverence.....

I have had a letter today letting me know that after "NUMEROUS" letters at trying to attempt a response from my breeder ......no reply !!! What a surprise.........

He should be ashamed to call himself a KC registered breeder!!!

They are now removing the restrictions on the paperwork as he did not comply with the rules of the KC and finally have accepted what I have been saying for over 12 months.....

Shame I was the only one to have the grief.........and made to feel like I was the villain.....

Please don't reply stating the obvious code of GOOD breeders ......I would have liked it I had not had to fight for 12 months .......when it was obvious he was a complete ar**

I have been planning a complete life change and relocation to the US for 18 months and could have done without the hassle of letters to the KC trying to explain I did nothing wrong.....

At least now the best result.....my bullmastiff can go and be registered with the US KC like he so deserves.....my little boy....well not so little at 56 kgs

Well done :)
I have read your story from the start, and it has always appeared to be less than ideal re paperwork so I am happy the KC ruled in your favour. From my understanding, "export" isn't the same as "relocation with owner" and that would affect any of us who decided to move to another country.

Thank you.....I am so happy for my boy !!

well fought & well done. Good luck to you all in the US, happy times.

Well done . So pleased for you and good luck with your new life :)

It looks like this has been resolved for you but just in case, this site has links to 9 organizations in the U.S. that are for mixed breed activities and competitions.  Here in Ontario, Canada NAMBR is becoming popular

Coming to the USA, eh?  The American Kennel Club has recently started giving out special registry numbers to dogs of mixed ancestry so that they will be eligible to compete in the performance/obedience events.  (All revenues gratefully accepted!)

You might check www.AKC.org to see what the exact requirements are, I believe they list the "breed" as All American Dog or something similar.

The drawback is that not all show-giving kennel clubs open their classes to the mixed breeds, feeling that their mission is to serve the purebreds first.  My thoughts on that are if a person is willing to invest the time and effort to train their mixed breed, and then the money for the entry fee(s) for the show, they really and truly ARE interested in their dog and should be encouraged to compete.

So glad you got it sorted, and well done KC for mediating and coming to the right and fair decision. :-) Hope you all settle and are happy in the US - how exciting for you!

Glad it all turned out ok in the end..Good luck and best wishes for your new life abroad and a big hug
Bosco....xxxxxxxxxx

Well done you, i applaude your determination (i would have been exactly the same but so many just give up :( )

Good luck with your new adventure :)

Now just download the Export Pedigree form from the KC site and fill it in before you go, and get the vet to confiorm entirety (required for males) and you will then have what you need to register him with the AKC.

Great news, its a long battle but worth the hassle to get the result you are entitled to in the end. :-D
Chris

Hello all, thank you so much for all your lovely comments.......I am so excited now I have this sorted......great info regards the certificate Brainless.....I did not know about that....just downloaded it and booked the vets for his check up and to have the vet sign the form......

All I need to do now is stop stressing about how he will be on the flight and journey.....he is my baby boy and hope he travels ok.....he is brilliant in the car and very calm when travelling but this is huge......

Already found the pet stores in Houston to get him new big bedding and toys etc for when he arrives......yeah !

Xxxxx

Hello all............this is a late comment posted on my very old thread.........

Just wanted to let you know that Boscoe passed away very recently to Hermangiosarcoma..........he fought hard but sadly lost his battle at the age of 3 years and 9 months following a 5 month diagnosis and surgery and chemo......just wanted to let you all know as we moved here from the UK when he was 1 year old and has had a fabulous time living in Texas..........he was a brave boy but sadly we had to say goodbye. There may be his sire and Dam owners on here..........if so you gave us a wonderful boy who we miss very much...........hope you are all doing well xxx

Oh so sorry to hear this.  I remember your Bosco posts and your move.

Putting aside all of the rules and regs I would just like to offer my sympathies to you at the loss of Boscoe and so young too, wishing you well and hope that your new life on other shores is going well

I'm so sorry to hear this, my thoughts are with you xx

How sad you were robbed of a full lifetime together. Glad you and he had a couple of years in your new home, and happy times together.  So sad for you.

Oh my........I am so happy to read that you remember Boscoe..........he was such a character and a lovely baby boy......so sad his life was so short.......Hermangiosarcoma sucks..........My say that the Bullmastiff breed is a beautiful one and when we feel the time is right we will have another..........love you all xx

I certainly remember Boscoe and your move to warmer climes :-) Sorry you lost him at such a young age but he will live on in your heart and your memories. Run free young man.

Kimbo I am so very sorry to hear about the loss of Boscoe. RIP young man.