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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / what do you think of these ingredients?
- By ali-t [gb] Date 21.10.11 17:23 UTC
I am doing a trial of a new dog food and wondered what you thought of the ingredients.  I have given it to both of my dogs as a snack/treat rather than a meal so far and they wolfed it down so going to test it out as food on one of the dogs.  Any thoughts to the quality?

turkey meat meal (26%)
rice (26%)
oats, barley, linseed (5%)
chicken fat
sugar beet pulp (2.5%)
digest, seaweed (1.25%)
alfalfa (0.5%)
potassium chloride
chicory (0.1%)
calcium carbonate, glucosamine, chondroitan, yucca schidigera extract (0.01%)

This is broken down into:
protein 21%
crude fibre 3%
fat content 13%
calcium 1.4%

There are other things listed but these are the main ones
- By Brainless [gb] Date 21.10.11 17:25 UTC
I tend to feed any food that has at least 25% of meat/fish meal, not any less, and they do fine on it
- By ali-t [gb] Date 21.10.11 19:56 UTC
mine will scoff anything and would happily live on Bakers and pizza but I am not too hot on canine nutrition (but know enough to know pizza isn't a good choice ;) )
- By Alfieshmalfie Date 21.10.11 20:45 UTC
turkey meat meal (26%)
rice (26%)
oats, barley, linseed (5%)
chicken fat
sugar beet pulp (2.5%)
digest, seaweed (1.25%)
alfalfa (0.5%)
potassium chloride
chicory (0.1%)
calcium carbonate, glucosamine, chondroitan, yucca schidigera extract (0.01%)

Ive had to do quite a lot of looking at dog food recently and several things I picked out from the above list were:

turkey meat meal, that is the dehydrated weight of the turkey so better than 'fresh turkey' which would still contain all the water, ie so when it would be dried for the dog food you would end up with less.
Quite a lot of grains 31%, ie rice oats barley and linseed, the barley makes it a food with gluten in, which some dogs can be allergic too.
Digest is described as:Animal Digest - material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed.
Sugar beet pulp is described by 'dog food reviews' as:
Beet pulp is a controversial filler. It is a by-product, being dried residue from sugar beets which has been cleaned and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. It is a controversial ingredient in dog food, claimed by some manufacturers to be a good source of fibre, and derided by others as an ingredient added to slow down the transition of rancid animal fats and causing stress to kidney and liver in the process. We note that beet pulp is an ingredient that commonly causes problems for dogs, including allergies and ear infections, and prefer not to see it used in dog food. There are less controversial products around if additional fibre is required.

The vitamins and minerals unless are said in percentage are likely just to be traces tbh.
- By Goldmali Date 21.10.11 21:37 UTC
For the wet foods I use, I will not feed anything with less than 50 % meat because let's face it, the rest will just be fillers. I do feed less meat content food to the big dogs because they get only a few meals a week of this and 9 of their 14 meals a week is raw meat.
- By Elly [gb] Date 21.10.11 21:59 UTC
Too much grain, gluten and sugar beet pulp in it just for starters to make me say no thank you. It would have my boy itching, mucky eared and runny eyed.
- By tohme Date 22.10.11 07:08 UTC
Over 60% grains/cereals
I would prefer to see only one or two grains at most if I was feeding a commercial diet with grains, oats and/or rice in that order
Linseed can cause itchies
sugar beet pulp provides fibre plus prebiotics
chicory is a prebiotic
I am not a fan of those foods using the USP of adding supplements such as Chondroitin, Glucosamine etc as we have no idea of the quantities as they are less than the minimum required to be declared on labelling and thus probably not in any quantity to be of any value.
- By ali-t [gb] Date 22.10.11 08:37 UTC
I agreed to trial it on the bzzz campaigns and it is a new food produced for tesco called Lathams to try and introduce foods like you get in the vets, but in the supermarket.  It is to make feeding your dog a better quality food as convenient as possible and is marketed as vet devised and approved.  The price is comparible with similar type foods.

I am going to go with the trial and see how one of them gets on with it.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.10.11 08:59 UTC
Not arguing over grain content, but any food that has over 25% meat meal has actually a reasonable amount of meat as meat in undried form would be 70% water.

I am fortunate that none of my dogs have ever shown any grain etc intolerances, though I prefer lamb or fish over poultry as there is less gas produced, though fortunately they are not a gassy breed.
- By ali-t [gb] Date 07.11.11 20:45 UTC
The dogs are really loving the food.  the downside is that it doesn't actually work out much cheaper than premium foods and comes in a smaller bag than the 15K sacks I usually get (which last 3 weeks) so I would be going to tesco every fortnight, if not more often to get a sack of food.

The dogs do love it though so if I change from our current food it is definitely a contender and even during the trial there were no runny bums or anything like that.  Definite thumbs up in comparison to the other supermarket options.
- By Nova Date 07.11.11 21:08 UTC
LOL Barbara, as a breed they do not seem to produce much gas but I think I own the exception to the rule and to cap it all he is quite musical with it as well, so there is no ignoring you have to hear as well as open the door.
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