Ive just read on the site of the large breed rescue that I support that they now have a dog that has been purposely injected and become addicted to heroin by its owner. Apart from it being one of the worst premeditated acts of abuse that I can think of it was compounded by the fact that this is not uncommon!!

My heart break for some of these dogs.

I fail to see the reason behind this and as the drug is so expensive how come the owner a) lets it be used on the dog and b) has the spare cash fo this?

Weird

That was my first thought too.....

My second being, why didn't they just use the extra that they gave their dog and overdose themselves!

> I fail to see the reason behind this and as the drug is so expensive how come the owner a) lets it be used on the dog and b) has the spare cash fo this?
>

I would guess the answers as:
a) in order to make the dog aggressive for protection purposes (don't know if that would be done by dosage or deprivation)
b) by earning vast amounts  of cash as a drug dealer

I can also imagine what breed the dog is :( 
'Macho' men that really haven't a hope in hells chance of taking care of thierselves, rely on dogs to do it for them. The pathetic little sh*ts NEED weapons and protection as they they are so pathetic most people would step on them like excrement with out batting an eyelid. However, with a dog - made aggressive through whatever treatment is necesary- they have a weapon that will use itself so they can keep thier crummy little selfs safe.

OH MY GOSH they make me soooooooo angry

Or, if there is not really a dog addicted to heroin, I have just wound myself up over nothing!

At training class last week we were told to clear the pugs out of the arena before the next dog arrived as it was very agressive - a "big staffi" who had been rehomed from a rescue and had been a drug dealers dog, it was addicted on canabis - had been fed cigarettes containing it, and also alcohol. Methods used to increase it's agression apparently, and because it was a laugh! :(  If anyone smokes or has a drink around it,  it lunges around desperate to get to the substances.  I can' thelp but wonder at the rescue which would rehome this dog with a complete novice owner, as has been done.

Mastifflover..Apparently initial contact with the rescue told them there was 3 but 1 has died due to overdose/complications and there are 2 on their way in. Poor poor babies. I'm looking at my lot crashed out on the settees after their morning blast and breakfast and I feel sick.

I know I'm probably going to come across as quite hard and cruel but with the over-burden in rescues and financial hardships the dog you describe GWEN I would have had it pts, it's unsafe to be in society now IMO. The dog/s on heroine also, how much will it cost to wean them off the stuff and what affect will it have on them afterwards?

I personally feel any dog trained to be aggressive (or now with a habit) is a ticking time bomb, I don't understand why rescues re-home them at all, not when there are plenty there who have been abandoned and re-homed due to people no longer wanting them, I just can't get passed why these dogs are ever up for re-homing, I think it's much kinder to them and society to let them drift into a peaceful sleep.

Actually Carrington I tend to agree with you

> I know I'm probably going to come across as quite hard and cruel

No you don't.

The cruelty to the dogs is from the people that do that to the dogs in the first place.

No, it is not the dogs fault, but they are not brought up to be pet dogs, they are brought up to be savage weapons or fighters and I doubt that any part of thier poor lifes resemble what our beloved pet dogs have. I can understand why people want to help them, but the reality is they (or most of them) will surley be a ticking time bomb. I doubt the dogs are from reputuable breeders, they are most likely bred soley for thier gameness/aggressiveness and thier owners then spend all thier time making them want to attack, making them hate other people. How much work would re-habilitaion be and how reliable could they ever be????

I feel I need to be more aware of my dogs behaviour and body-luanguage now that I have a Mastiff, then when I had a lab-cross, simply due to the potential he has for causing damage from his size and he has been bred for temperment (one that is acceptable by society, not a temperment of a weapon) and his life has been geared to making him friendly and an acceptable part of society. There is no way I could cope with the constant vigilance of taking on a dog that has been possibly bred for an aggresive temperment, used as a weapon, addicted to drugs and has had to endure heavens-knows-what abuse - you just don't know what you're dealing with :( :(

> At training class last week we were told to clear the pugs out of the arena before the next dog arrived as it was very agressive - a "big staffi"

Poor dog, but how terrifying for everbody else :(

Totally agree Carrington.
The suffering this dog must be going through with possible withdrawl symptoms doesnt bear thinking about. The owners must be for ever walking on egg shells wondering what if anything is going to trigger the dog into any kind of aggression.

Carrington I TOTALLY agree with you,why do people think its wicked or cruel to have an animal PTS that is stressed or
cant have a happy carefree life,its the hardest thing for us as humans to do but sometimes its the right thing to do,the dog gently
goes to sleep and never suffers pain,beating starvation,abuse,stress ever again.

I completely agree, I feel terribly sorry for these dogs that have never had a chance at a decent life but there is a finite number of homes and an abundance of rescue dogs. As you say there are so many dogs that are just unwanted through no fault of there own available that it just doesn't make sense. Not only that but I think it is a very bad advert for rescue dogs in general, when you see dogs that are like that its quite likely to put any novice person off rescues in general when they would be fine with some of the better ones.

I agree too - was amazed when told about the dog, I could  not believe any rescue would rehome him.  No-one knows what is going to trigger the trained aggression, or what mental damage has been done.  There are some instance when so much damage has been done that a dog may well never be safe with either people or other dogs.  Also felt scared on behalf of the trainer.

Sadly carrington I have to agree. We have enough healthy dogs that are in rescue so for the safety of everyone and  in the best interes of these dogs pts is probably the kindest thing to do.
We are still learning of the effects of drugs on humans and havent got the money or knowledge to rehabilitate
dogs.
omg are there some people who shouldnt walk this planet

Yes it is appaling what is done to these poor dogs but some rescues must realize there is a place for putting a dog to sleep. What will happen if this dogs aggression is triggered during a class..will it take the death of another dog to make the rescues realise what a responsibility they have. Do they not have a comeback from any "damaged" party if this dog hurts someone/dog. They have homed a potential lethal weapon into a "Not very expierienced" home.. Bit like giving a lion to a child to walk!!!
Madness
Some people wonder why I am very carefull about what cash I put into what charity boxes..sorry but my hard earned pennies are too precious to be used on a dog with this kind of problem when the only safe option is PTS Lets spend our time, mpney and effort homing those dogs who have a chance of a good life ahead of them.
As for the scum who do this kind of thing...well it's like those who use gentle family pets for dog bait...there is no word to describe them...only the unprintable kind, bring back the good old days of Tower of London and let them rot in a cell forever...
Aileen

carrington..I agree with you completely... the poor soul need to be put out of its misery.

Years ago, in the eighties I used to meet a great dane that had been rehomed, the new owner said the previous owner used to injuect the dog. I dont know if this was true or not, but the dog had loads of marks on its body that could have been caused by injections. the dog was very aggressive, the new ovner had to wrap the lead around a lamp post to be able to hold the por dog.

this is really a coincidence,but ive just been talking to a dog trainer who gave a home to a collie who had been fed Lsd-completly screwed up,but although he could never be totally trusted,went on to do well in working trials.The dog has passed on now,his owner remembers him fondly as a fairly dangerous,but well controlled rogue-but what on earth is up with some people-what posseses them?Personally,id like to beat their brains in,and thats better than they deserve.