were in europe can i buy a cropped and docked doberman pincher and how much do they cost roughly as i dont know were to start.HELP!anybody. thanks

You can't. I think cropping and docking are banned in most European countries now.

The list here shows how enlightened most countries are now (although I think the Wales entry might be a joke!!).

They still dock in parts of Spain but dont know about cropping ears. 

Even if you found one the cost would be very high because of the need for it to be pet passported and boarded for 7 months before it could enter the country; you'd be looking at a rough price of £3000 before you take your dog (at least 10 months old by this time) home.

wind up surely?

> wind up surely?

Not necessarily, I've known of people doing it - they like the cropped/docked look, and some prefer the european lines for their looks and working drive.

Me, I prefer a good old english all-natural dobe myself :-)