Does anyone know of this affix Kenvilleven?
When I google it I find several breeds under this kennel name??

That affix is this year's KC own affix, which can be used for registering puppies from any breeder who doesn't have an affix of their own.

As JG says, it just means that the dog was registered without an affix in 2007 (hence "even" at the end of Kenmill...)
Kenmillone would mean 2001 etc

many thanks :) i first thought it was a puppy farmer with all those dog breeds! Much clearer now thank you :)

always wondered why my boy was kenmilleven, thought it was an old mans name lol

Actually it is used when the breeder doesn't name the puppies themselves.

To be honest a breeder that couldn't' even be bothered to name the pups would nto be one I would have any confidence in.

Most breeders even if they do not have an affix spend a lot of time and trouble thinking up the puppies names, either with a special theme or letter..

I agree Barbara, anyone that has taken the time to rear a litter normally takes pride in the naming of their puppies, I know it took me ages to think of KC names for my litter! it does seem very strange to use this service rrom the Kennel club.

>Actually it is used when the breeder doesn't name the puppies themselves.

That's interesting, so do you mean the breeder has supplied no name at all or just doesn't have an affix?

>> Actually it is used when the breeder doesn't name the puppies themselves.
> That's interesting, so do you mean the breeder has supplied no name at all or just doesn't have an affix?

It means the breeder has let the KC chose the name/s for the pup/s.

> i first thought it was a puppy farmer with all those dog breeds!

I thought that too one year when I got the BRS to check the change of ownership for one of our dogs. I actually emailed the KC and they explained it was their affix for breeders who did not have their own but wanted to use one. They didn't mention that they actually named the dogs though!

It used to be used for breeders who did not have their own affix but who bred several litters in a year, not sure at what point they decided to apply it, 2nd or 3rd litter in year or whatever and all subsequent ones got the KC affix for the year. It may have changed to being used with the "naming service", which I think is paid for?  Can't imagine not naming my own little ones, sometimes have the names even before the mating has happened:)

Didnt know that. I would be unhappy with a breeder who couldnt be bothered to name their pups doesnt sound good to me either

If they can't even be bothered to name the pups what else couldn't they be bothered with.

Absolutly !

Thankyou all very much for upsetting me :(. I own a lovely dog who's breeder did care very much for the puppies from his litter. I am still in touch with her over 3yrs later.

Sorry didnt mean to upset anyone. Obviously you did have a good person and I am very pleased it worked out and I am sure you have a wonderful dog. It would be interesting to know why the breeder didnt choose to name the pups themselves first hand experience is always good.
I think all we were saying is that it could ring alarm bells as could other things and you would as always need to check them out and if everything is fine then great 

He was from the ladies first ever litter, but she came recommended from the stud dogs owner. That's the only reason I can think of.

You learn something new every day.  Knew you could get them to name them, why???, but not provide an affix.  Think i would just rather keep a nice name without the affix if i didn't have one.

Seems very strange to most of us, to not name yoru own pups, especially with that special first ever litter, I had lists of potential names from mating time to birth as it seemed to take forever.

It was ll I could do to wait long enough to see they were all going to make it before I sent the registration form off.

Mind I haven't changed I rushed my current litter application off the day the pups were born, though die to ti being an overseas sire, DNA tests etc I had to do it postally and it took a couple of weeks.

He was from the ladies first ever litter, but she came recommended from the stud dogs owner

In cats a similar system is used. If the breeder does not have a prefix, the GCCF will provide an administrative one. When I bred my first litter I never imagined I would breed more -it was meant to be a one off for a kitten to keep -(I still used a Champion stud though :) ) and so I did not get my own prefix as I saw no point. I then got more interested and started to show and a year later had a another litter. Applied for a prefix much at the same time and it did not come through in time to register my litter with it so my first and second litter had administrative prefixes, all the others since then my own.

but with dogs you don't need an affix you just need to provide a two word name.  there are famous kennels that don't have an affix at all, just use the same initials for the dogs names.

But that must seriously limit the names that can be used as surely you can only have one dog with the same name within one breed. Isn't that the entire point of the administrative prefixes?

There are millions of words and combinations of two words..

Yes, like the famous R P & within my own breed S B

MarianneB do they call them Prefixes in the cat world? one of my neighbours has just started breeding cats an mentioned to my OH that they were getting a prefix or suffix (OH couldn't remember which was said) :-)
Paula xxx

I do not trust the kc to choose names,I once forgot to put the cross in the box on a form so my names that were rejected were named by them and I had two boys given girls names they did eventually agree to change them,once we all stopped laughing. My prefix was awarded in 1967,and was compounded for life for 10 guineas,which was about the price of a puppy then,but what a good investment that has been!!!

MarianneB do they call them Prefixes in the cat world?

Yes. :)

There are millions of words and combinations of two words..

And yet you get millions of people giving their dogs the same name.