hi i hope somone can help,
i have a freind with a chinese crested hhl puppy with fleas she has used frontline spot on 3 times since she has had him frontlined her other dog and cats sprayed the house. but can not get rid of the fleas from the crested, all other animals are clear of fleas does anyone have experience of any other flea treatments that have worked.

also she has read up online that crested should not suffer with fleas?

i am worried that she will end up overdosing him.

thanks

Well as he is hairless a medicated flea shampoo should do the trick, but if the dog is getting re-infected then the other measures are not working and that needs to be addressed, where is the re-infestation coming from if the house has been treated?

Is the dog visiting another house etc regularly?

no he has been to ring craft last wk but only other contact is on walks or with my dogs i have just spoke to hubby he said could be hedge hogs from the garden if it is how do you get rid of the them nicely.

have just pm you

Stronghold seems to be more effective against fleas than frontline these days, i think the wide spread use of frontline has lead to resistance. Stronghold also has some environmentally control. Make sure she has used a good spray alround hte house, cracks and crevices and skirting boards. (preferably one from the vet as pet shop ones don't tend to be as effective. ) If the dogs go in the car then that will have to be treated too. Make sure she is only using the frontline once a month as any more frequent would be overdosing. However the stronghold can be used within 2 weeks of administering frontline. Stronghold is a prescription only medicine so she would have to ask her vet for some.

The only Household sprays worth using are those with insect Growth regulator, like Acclaim and RIP. 

These kill adult fleas for a time, but their main use is to stop developing eggs and larva from maturing into the next generation of fleas for 6 months or even a year.

> Make sure she has used a good spray alround hte house, cracks and crevices and skirting boards. (preferably one from the vet as pet shop ones don't tend to be as effective. )

Definitely do this!
Fleas do not breed on the animals, they hop off and choose your sofa, carpet or flooring, then the young fleas jump on your dog for dinner. If you control them at this stage then there will be many less to hop back on, and any brought in will not have a chance to reproduce. Acclaim is one that interferes with the fleas' breeding cycle - you can buy it at Boots for about £13 and one spray of the home will last for up to a year.

I've sprayed the house with Acclaim and when I see fleas I usually use Frontline Spray as I'm not keen on spot-ons (and I have a free-range cat too, which I can use the spray on -but not the spot ons- so it's a money-saver). But it's a bad year for fleas with the continuing warm weather - I am going to re-do the house with Acclaim and get the dog & cat one spot-on treatment each from the vet, probably Stronghold. That will probably be enough to break the cycle.

It's also a good idea to worm more regularly if you have had fleas as they can transmit tapeworms, especially in rural areas.

> i have just spoke to hubby he said could be hedge hogs from the garden if it is how do you get rid of the them nicely.

Have you tried Frontline spray on the hedgehogs?  It would remove the cause for the dogs.

>Have you tried Frontline spray on the hedgehogs?  It would remove the cause for the dogs.

It's also terribly dangerous for the hedgehogs if it's sprayed on. :-( Hedgehog information.

Fleas from hogs are host specfic(sp).
Hedgehog fleas only live on hedgehogs. They like the cool open environment of the coarse and widely spaced spines where it can run fast. If it finds itself in the dense, warm coat of a dog or cat, it  immediately knows it's in the wrong place and drops off to wait for another hedgehog. The same goes for hedgehog fleas that get onto humans, they do not stay long before leaving to find a proper host. If they are a nuisance, you should lightly dust with Johnsons RID-MITE or similar powder suitable for use on cage birds.
DO NOT spray or treat with anything intended for flea control on domestic pets, IT WILL KILL THE HEDGEHOG.

I had to do all mine for fleas recently, first time in 7 years
my vets only stock effipro - as they have had to many complaints about frontline,
anyway i did mine with effipro - then dosed them all about a week later with Diatomaceous Earth,
never treated the house, just hoovered everywere and washed all the dogs bedding on a boil wash
not had a problem since, the Diatomaceous Earth finshed what the effipro missed.

> Fleas from hogs are host specfic(sp).
> Hedgehog fleas only live on hedgehogs.

Thanks for that. After a post earlier in the year re slugs & snails and lung worm, thought that a hedgehog in the garden would be a good idea but did nothing about it because of the fleas.

Don't know if I mentioned this before but if you have cats then do beware, hedgehog ticks will go onto cats.

> Don't know if I mentioned this before but if you have cats then do beware, hedgehog ticks will go onto cats.

They don't go for dogs then?

> They don't go for dogs then?

Well I'm not an expert on parasitology but I can relate my experience. Several years ago I looked after a hedgehog, which I rescued from a main road (outside a kebab shop - the staff were terrified of it, I guess they don't have hedgehogs in Turkey!). Took him home and installed him in my garden, fed him cat food, boiled eggs, raisins - all the recommended stuff - until I found a suitable friend who wanted him in her garden to control the slugs. He had gone into my shed to sleep which was OK by me.

18 months later I had a pregnant moggy and when her kittens were old enough they were allowed supervised access to the garden, and the shed. They loved the shed and were often found all curled up in there like a little family on holiday in a beach hut. But one day they came in covered in ticks - mum and 6 kittens - at least 6 ticks each which were too small to be picked off by a tick-tool.... that's ummmm almost 40 ticks I had pick off by hand The ONLY possible vector had to have been the hedgehog....

I got some Frontline spray for them the next day and all sorted. But no, none on my doggy at all, and no issue with fleas either - it was just the ticks, it was like a horror B-movie "The Attack of the Ticks!" and I scratched for a long time after... :)

MsTemeraire.

Many thanks. Walled garden and at times can go out and collect half a plastic bag full of slugs, so will have a rethink about homing a hedgehog. Had doubts before as I don't treat the dogs for fleas unless they have them, and as another poster has mentioned frontline & frontline combo doesn't seem to be working this far south. Best wishes, Lacy

> Many thanks. Walled garden and at times can go out and collect half a plastic bag full of slugs, so will have a rethink about homing a hedgehog.

Most welcome :)
Do bear in mind that hedgehogs are expert climbers too, a walled garden would be no obstacle. They climb up & up and roll into a ball to bounce down the other side!

The alternative might be contacting hedgehog experts who would recommend a hedgie-friendly parasite control solution. Which on reflection is something I could have done.... except that the ticks survived in the shed for a very long time after the hedgie had gone..... Didn't think of that...but who would at the time? lol

Well in my suburban garden we have had ticks since last year,a dn yes they have gone of the pups (not the adults though). 

I can only same they are Hedgehog ticks as we do get them visiting, and certainly too urban and contained for access by sheep or deer.

I found hedgehogs loved my hen run, they loved curling up in the straw in the nesting boxes...trouble was the hens didn't want to share and the hedgepigs ate all the eggs :)