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I have decided to give this a try, after having to change from james well beloved to wainrights (pets at home brand, supposed to be like jwb).
Does anyone know how long it generally takes to be delivered if ordered from the site directly?
Also there are so many choices lol, I have my 1 year old rottie who is quite active and my 5 year old gsd who has definitely got less active over the last year, would much prefer to amble along by my side (unless she smells something too tempting) so looking at their different foods I presume I should get them different bags each.
Any recommendations from people who use cjs dog food?
Personally I'd give CSJ a phone call to discuss what's best. Ceri, owner and nutritionist, is very good, tell her what you've been feeding them and she'll match in what they do and what you want.
I've been using it for a couple of years and have been very happy with it. I moved from Burns (too many dogs to afford Burns :-( ) and I can't say that I've noticed any difference in coat, overall condition or poos. I flip between CSJ and AG, and they all slot in very well. I use the Lamb and Rice as the dogs on the whole have been raised wheat gluten free. One of my youngsters doesn't like wheat gluten free so she was on Champ for a little while.
But best thing talk to them and they will advise the best one to go for. They'll even send samples. I get my food from a local stockist but I do order herbs quite often from the site, normally with me within 3 days.
Thanks for that :) I will give them a call tomorrow then when I am going to order.
I used to feed my gsd on burns when she was younger, however due to there being less food and less poop (which was good!) she used to suffer from throwing up bile every morning without fail, even tried a biscuit before bed to fill her tummy a bit through the night. Never happened with any other dog food except burns.

I feed Natural Champ to the adult big dogs (all Malinois) and Old Champ to the older big dogs (one Mali, one Golden, two crosses of the two). Those are the cheapest versions. I should add these dogs also get one meal of raw meat a day in addition to the CSJ.
That is scarily cheap marianne - I wonder how they can afford to make it that price when you get others charging really high prices. I mean okay, it appears it is a good food, and I presume other brands such as burns/jwb may have slightly better ingredients but I am wondering how they can justify such a huge price difference - the expensive ones that is.
Gawd, if my dogs can get on okay on food like this then it would be too tempting to add another one to the pack ;) :D
I don't give mine raw meat, I have had to do a lot of work with both on guarding issues, which they both do brilliantly at - but there are certain food items I don't like to put in the mix to start it up again - no bones either.
I do however give them dried tripe quite a lot and they always get something tasty mixed in with their food, either some mince or tuna/pilchards.
Do you give your dogs extra meat as it doesn't state the meat content in that particular cjs?

The only reason for why I use the raw meat is that we have an unlimited supply from a local butcher for basically just pennies -we could feed all the dogs on this all the time, but I am a vegetarian and very squeamish when it comes to meat so need to be able to feed a food that doesn't look like meat. :) So my husband feeds the raw meal and I feed the CSJ. (I have to feed one meal when he's at work.) However before we found the butcher we fed only CSJ and the dogs did fine on that. We buy it from a local breeder and I know others in my breed who feed CSJ and only that, even the cheaper foods.

As I said on "food for old dogs" thread, I think CSJ is brilliant, good food at a good price with healthy dogs and coats, what more could you ask. My lot love it.
By Tadsy
Date 13.07.10 07:22 UTC

My 3 Rotties are on Champ (the £9 for 15kg one), and all do great. My boy has always had a bit of a sensitive tum, but no probs at all since moving over. We moved from AG Large Breed Chicken and Rice purely from a monetary perspective. We've saved c £80 a month switching and the service is brilliant too.
I order 2 x 15kg sacks per month (postage is the same for 1 or 2 sacks), and it's usually delivered within 2/3 days. Can't fault them.
By brac
Date 13.07.10 08:19 UTC

All my dog are on CSJ and have been for the last 18 months all are doing brilliant from Briard. Border Terriers.Catalan Sheepdogs . there coats are fantastic and I reared a litter on there cp27 this year and pups looked fantastic on it we moved from royal canine to CSJ and i must say it was the best move we did for our dogs they love the food.
and our girl who is feed on it is currently top import .
would defo give it a try they are great people to deal with so helpfull
By Tadsy
Date 13.07.10 08:48 UTC
>> was the best move we did for our dogs they love the food.
I agree, I have one who can be rather fussy, and with other brands after a couple of weeks on it, would turn her nose up and walk away. She hasn't done that once since being on CSJ.
Thanks everyone - ordered a bag of champ today, if they don't get on with that particular one I can just donate the bag to the local dog pound/rescue and will phone to ask for advice on what will be better for them both.
Still can't quite believe the prices!
I think what you also have to look at is the costs involved in packaging - CSJ is bog standard poly bags, with just one colour. Tons cheaper than multi colour printing. They don't advertise on TV nor in the national doggy magazines ... I have no idea how much a full page ad in something like Dog's Today costs, but I should imagine it's a small fortune - Burns certainly have been having full page ads to promote their new range. CSJ also distribute via local stockists who are committed to the food ... there's no hefty costs for warehousing, distributions, etc with 3rd parties before it's plonked on a shop shelf. Plus the scale of the operation, CSJ is actually still very small fry compared to the bigger and more expensive brands, and when you're talking to their nutritionist for advice, you're talking to the person who developed the food, and out of their farm office - so low staff & overheads too!
Now you have said all of that it kind of makes me even more pleased I have decided to give them a go. I also noticed after I'd placed an order they have a stockist near me too.
I have often wondered why supermarkets don't stock any of the better food? Including pets shops not selling burns etc.
If you decide your dogs like the food and get on with it, you may well find your local stockist will be cheaper than buying online. My local (though not at all local, but the closest I have) is about £2 a bag cheaper for the Lamb and Rice, than if I were to buy online. The herbs are also a bit cheaper.
By Dill
Date 15.07.10 18:51 UTC
>I have often wondered why supermarkets don't stock any of the better food? Including pets shops not selling >burns etc.
That's easy, the mark up isn't so good (less profit for the supermarket) and lack of advertising means that Joe public have no 'brand awareness' therefore the supermarket can't move shedloads. Burns is
very expensive compared to most foods carried by petshops, there's no leeway for pricing and usually a minimum order which means that the petshop has to pay out for food which may not sell well. I know of only 2 petshops locally (10 miles away in both directions) who stock it, but a local vet's surgery do carry it.
I've found another food that I'm very pleased with, it's practically identical to CSJ, and it's sold 1/2 a mile away, which is great since my CSJ stockist was giving up for personal reasons :) and best of all, my lunatic has calmed down on the same food as the other two :) I'd still prefer CSJ given the choice, but haven't the room to store several bags which would make ordering a viable option.

Hi,
Can anyone tell me what "prairie meal" is please? It is listed as an ingredients in one of the CSJ ranges. When I asked I was simply told it was low magnesium protein so I am still none the wiser.
Thanks

I had to google it, as all I knew was that it was derived from maize
Prairie Meal - the dried by-product of the manufacture of maize starch. It consists principally of gluten obtained during the separation of the starch.
In the wet milling process, after the maize germ and fibre are removed, the remaining material is centrifuged to isolate the starch from the gluten for further processing to modified starches, sweeteners, etc. The remaining gluten is dried and then milled/sieved to produce a consistent course powder high in proteins with a natural pigment.

Thanks....doesn't sound like something that I would like in a food
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