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Topic Dog Boards / General / Composting Dog Mess
- By Brainless [gb] Date 20.04.10 16:07 UTC
There always seems to be rather a negative opinion re the idea of composting dog mess.  Have read soem articles saying it's fine, but more saying it is not, but no real reason given.

I had always assumed it was the toxacara issue, but then herbivores harbour intestinal parasites????  My lot are routinely wormed.

Anyway mine are wormed pretty well, and as two years ago we were getting rid of a broken double bed, and the outer frames looked like frames, my other half decided to stack them and fill them with the dogs mess, originally with a view of burying ti in bean trenches.

We just filled it up until the Autumn, so probably a whole (five dog) years worth.

Have not added to it since then, and just took the frames off and he dug into lovely friable compost, no smell, lots of earthworms.

So certainly worth doing, but I would expect it takes longer to rot down so would need two going, so that at least 6 months passes before it is used.
- By dogs a babe Date 20.04.10 17:29 UTC
I read an article that said poo is fine to compost but, as the process is different, to keep it separate from general garden waste.  Dog poo should be allowed to dry out first whilst green waste will generate heat to rot down more effectively.  I think it was also a hygeine issue as you don't want to be handling poo too soon, wait until it's friable

It was an American article but I can't find it now.  I was doing some research to tackle the dog waste question in our village.  Still a problem...

Oh yes, and don't add it to a wormery just after worm treatment for your dogs!
- By sam Date 20.04.10 19:43 UTC
blimey i bet your neighbours loved you doing that!!
- By Polly [gb] Date 20.04.10 23:00 UTC
We have always composted dog poo and use it on the flower garden. Our fruit & veg are grown on our allotment so that is all vegetable waste from the allotment. We often get complimented on how good our flowers are.

Interesting about the wormer and wormery... I have never put poo in the wormery but the composted poo always seems to have more worms in it than my wormery! I do worm my dogs regularly, so it always amazes me I have worm infested poo compost.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 20.04.10 23:26 UTC

> blimey i bet your neighbours loved you doing that!!


no it didn't smell at all, but we did top it with wood ash from bonfire, but as my dogs waste is pretty dry, and the slatted boxes allowed plenty of air it wasn't an issue.
- By MsTemeraire Date 21.04.10 00:01 UTC Edited 21.04.10 00:05 UTC
Well I have a problem here. Small garden, picking up dog poo, what to do with it?
I did put it down the manhole cover in garden, to the sewer which is highly logical, and I know others do the same. Then I had probs with the loo blocking up and the wally the landlord sent round - oh and his name WAS Wally by the way - said it was cos of me putting dog poo into the sewer. Errrr....Loo is a long way away from the pipe, and about 8ft down, so if the dog poo was responsible then my neighbours loos which feed into the pipes after my soil pipe would be blocked too... no? Think we can work that one out....lol.... but I was told severely never to do it again at risk of my tenancy.

OK. Deep breath. Just humour them.

So I composted it in a dustbin and yes it works great..... BUT big but, what do I do with it after? Compost bin getting full.... Bin men will not taken 'garden material' away, and that would include nicely composted dog poo as it would be classed as soil/earth - certainly looks like it! But I have just a small back yard, no way could I use the compost on it. Can't sell it can I, or even free to good home? And who in their right minds would willingly take composted dog poo off my hands...lol....it ain't exactly well-rotted horse manure!!!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 21.04.10 00:24 UTC
You will find that you can bin dog waste in your landfill household waste. 

My council ask that it is bagged and then put in the wheelie bin, this is with dog and cat poo, but rabbit and guinea pig poo should be composted and put on the garden or put out with green waste (which here we have to pay to have taken).

So if you can't use compost yourself or have anyone who wants it simply bag and bin your dog waste.
- By stan berry [gb] Date 21.04.10 09:14 UTC
I to use manhole in one of dog runs followed by two buckets of water and disinfectant and stick pressure washer in once or twice a week ,
if small amounts on a once or twice a day basis there shouldnt be a problem unless there is an existing problem with your drains such as lack of fall or partial collapse/obstruction
stan berry
- By Goldmali Date 21.04.10 09:22 UTC
You will find that you can bin dog waste in your landfill household waste.

My council ask that it is bagged and then put in the wheelie bin, this is with dog and cat poo,


Ours too and we take the dog poo (initially put it in our septic tank, no good as it needed emptying every couple of months then instead of every other year) but the cat poo is a HUGE problem as of course it is inside cat litter and the local tip will not take that unless it is first separated, the litter has to go in a separate place. You can put it in your wheelie bin but if it gets too heavy (has to be able to be pushed with one finger apparently!!) the bin men will not take it. We get through roughly 50 kgs of cat litter a week so it is a big problem indeed and one we've tried to get an answer to for years.

I've searched and searched the internet for answers -what on earth do boarding kennels and catteries do, how do they get rid of large amounts of dog poo and cat litter? Does anyone know? We would happily pay to do it all properly but I cannot find out how.
- By MsTemeraire Date 21.04.10 09:27 UTC

> I've searched and searched the internet for answers -what on earth do boarding kennels and catteries do, how do they get rid of large amounts of dog poo and cat litter? Does anyone know? We would happily pay to do it all properly but I cannot find out how.


I guess that would be classed as commercial waste, so they probably have a contract with a company. What about asking your local council? Or a local kennels/cattery, who might be able to give you the name of their waste removal service?
- By Trialist Date 21.04.10 09:58 UTC
I thought this was an interesting thread, with 5 dogs and lots of poo bags used.  Biodegradable bags are quite expensive compared to nappy bags, but I'd rather use them. Having a trawl on the internet I came across this:

http://www.doggybog.co.uk/

Basically the same as putting poo into the sewer system, but an easier way of doing it than hoiking up heavy inspection covers ... you do need to 'flush' it through though, whether using something that fits into a soil pipe or lifting the covers.
- By LucyDogs [gb] Date 21.04.10 10:12 UTC
I bag mine and take it to the nearest poo bin when I walk the dogs.
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 21.04.10 10:50 UTC

> We get through roughly 50 kgs of cat litter a week so it is a big problem indeed and one we've tried to get an answer to for years.


You need to train them to use the toilet Marianne This would save you a fortune :-D
- By Goldmali Date 21.04.10 11:52 UTC
Ah but Marion, can you imagine it? Another 20 or so to queue for the loo!!!! :D Bad enough with my stepson, he seems to live in the bathroom! Couldn't compete with the cats as well LOL.
- By qwerty Date 21.04.10 12:02 UTC

> I've searched and searched the internet for answers -what on earth do boarding kennels and catteries do, how do they get rid of large amounts of dog poo and cat litter? Does anyone know? We would happily pay to do it all properly but I cannot find out how.


When i worked at a boarding kennels and cattery, we used to collect the cat litter into big paper bags(the type some dog and horse feed comes in) and it went onto the bonfire. The bonfire wasnt a raging fire but was kept simmering slightly daily and this was enough to dispose of. It didnt generate anymore smoke than normal(which wasnt much at all)
HTH
- By Goldmali Date 21.04.10 13:41 UTC
Was that wood based cat litter or similar though? Can't see the clay based litter burning? We've tried every type there is, wood based pelleted, straw based  pelletted, paper based pelletted and loose etc and I just cannot get on with them as they track everywhere and the smell is so much worse than with the normal clay litters. We tried for ages so we could burn but just couldn't stand the mess in the house after a while -sawdust everywhere within minutes of vacuuming and Persians with sawdust stuck to them everywhere. :( Plus many of the cats refuse to use anything but clay based litter and would rather go on the floor if there is a change.......
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 21.04.10 14:16 UTC

> Ah but Marion, can you imagine it? Another 20 or so to queue for the loo!!!! :D Bad enough with my stepson, he seems to live in the bathroom! Couldn't compete with the cats as well LOL.


You need to install an extra toilet for the cats then!! :-D
- By ChristineW Date 21.04.10 21:24 UTC

> what on earth do boarding kennels and catteries do, how do they get rid of large amounts of dog poo and cat litter?


Cattery I know uses sawdust (Free from the local sawmill) as litter and then its dumped into 5 large wheelie bins which are collected weekly by the council.  Ok, when there's not many cats in but at busy times it's dumped into black bags as well and taken to the tip!
- By qwerty Date 22.04.10 09:45 UTC

> Was that wood based cat litter or similar though?


Yes, it was wood based and burned easily.
- By Dribble Date 22.04.10 10:29 UTC
I bag mine and put it in our black bin for normal waste.

We have a brown bin too for garden waste and kitchen waste but we are not allowed to put dog poop in there for some reason.
- By Lea Date 22.04.10 11:57 UTC
I bag mine and put it in the landfill bin. I have house rabbits and used to put the waste in the green waste bin. Until one week they didnt empty it. Rang the council and they said you cant put animal waste in it :( i did say it makes the best compost but they wouldn't have any of it :( so it now all gets put in landfill! Lea :) 
- By Dukedog Date 22.04.10 13:41 UTC Edited 22.04.10 13:46 UTC
This post gave me an idea this morning. I have woken up to 3 fresh mole hills on my lawn everyday this week, so this morn i decided to put my Dukedogs do-its down these mole holes to see if it would deter this pesky mole, but knowing my luck the mole will thrive on Chappie do-its. Althought the smell of Chappie straight out of the can is bad enough!!!
Topic Dog Boards / General / Composting Dog Mess

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