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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / At what age can I feed my puppy a raw diet?
- By Malfurryion [us] Date 21.02.10 02:54 UTC Edited 21.02.10 02:58 UTC
I just got my first BoerBoel pup, his name is "Cicero" and I am very concerned for his health and welfare as any dog owner would be, I want to make sure that he is Happy and Healthy, I have been reading that feeding "Raw" is the best way to go, but at what age is it best to start giving the lil'fella raw meat? and should you mix it up between Beef,Pork,Chicken, Lamb and can I give Cicero fish? I got him from a Breeder in California and I will pick him up in a couple of weeks and we will spend time on the road together as I am moving to a new duty station (military) and he is on Ukanuba puppy feed now, he is 6 weeks old and has not had "RAW" feed as of yet and the breeder stated that they do not feed RAW as they have to many dogs to do that, any help would be greatly appreciated, and thank you   
- By Brainless [gb] Date 21.02.10 09:20 UTC
As puppies grow so fast and need optimum nutrition, unless you really understand the principles behind raw/natural feeding (which you don't yet) then keep him on a good quality puppy food until you have really studied the whole thing, as mistakes at this stage in development can have lifelong consequences.

Type into Google BARF and books and you should get a good list.
- By furriefriends Date 21.02.10 13:31 UTC
I agree with brainless that you need to do some research first and in the meantime stay put with a good complete. Be aware there are differences between feeding barf and raw meaty bones you need to research both itis personal preference and beliefs as to which you choose. I personally use raw meaty bones for mine (gsd and toy breed) both having been fed this way from about 6months now 2 years and 3 years and I wouldn't go back I will pm you a website to read to add to your research.
Yes you do mix any and all types of meat although many people do not like to give pork. Its most important that the dog has raw bones and muscle meat and at no time cooked bones. Fish is good. Its also not necessary to give supplements if the diet is a good range of meat.
Sounds like you may be in the military would sourcing raw food be a problem ?
- By mastifflover Date 22.02.10 13:20 UTC
Mastiffs grow at a fantastic rate, this growth rate should not be encouraged beyond the natural fast rate and from what I have learnt I would never again feed another mastiff puppy a large/giant breed PUPPY food (would use adult or junior).

> he is 6 weeks old and has not had "RAW" feed as of yet and the breeder stated that they do not feed RAW as they have to many dogs to do that


? It's much cheaper to feed lots of dogs on raw, as the raw food is cheaper to buy 'in bulk'. As for the space needed for freezer - if you have room for lots of Boerboels you have room for lots of freezers!

I would be asking the breeder WHY they feed the food they do, they should have a very good reason and be able to explain why they have chosen it and what foods they would not feed (again, they should be able to tell you WHY). I would not be happy with the answer you have (too many dogs to feed raw) as the breeder should be feeding what they deem BEST for the dogs, not the most convienient. 
You will be getting a pup that can end up between 100 - 200lbs in weight, that is a lot of dog and that size happens very fast, push that growth rate faster than it should be and it can result in a lot of problems.

Best of luck with researching the diet, very wise. It is so, important to make the right choices for this size of dog.
- By Malfurryion [us] Date 23.02.10 01:00 UTC
Thank you, Very Much for your input. I am being very careful to read as much as I can
Alvin&Cicero
- By Malfurryion [us] Date 23.02.10 01:04 UTC
Thank you very much, and I am in the military so getting raw food will not be a problem...Commisarry on post...and cheap a 3lb beef roast is only about 2.38USD ...one of the benefits of serving 
- By Malfurryion [us] Date 23.02.10 01:07 UTC
Thank you, and I will be asking these questions, and I planned on getting a freezer, but glad that you mentioned it to remind me that now it's not just me anymore so get a Big freezer...lol have to consider Cicero in all my decisions now...
- By mastifflover Date 23.02.10 12:31 UTC

> lol have to consider Cicero in all my decisions now...


Yes, you will :-)

It's an exciting time getting a puppy, to help pass the time while you are eagerly waiting to collect him, you can make sure you are ready for him.

All puppies play-bite, but when you have such a huge puppy, you can easily start to think that you have been conned and have actually got a T-Rex in a puppy costume! The bite stops here is a great article that should really help you get a grip on the puppy play biting and give you some understnading as to why it is important to illiminate the biting in stages.

Other considerations - gettting pup in/out of a car. In the UK we tend to not let our pups jump when growing, so getting such a huge pup in/out of a car can pose a problem. Not so much to start with, but give it a few weeks, then it gets hard to pick the pup up as he wieghs so much. I got a dog-ramp, so Buster (English Mastiff) can walk up/down the ramp to get in/out of the back of the car.

Another thing, you may allready know, is that kind, fair, consistant, reward-based trainnig is the way to go. You will be getting a dog that will end up very powerfull and very large, on top of this he will have his own mind and be no push over. It's very important that he listens to you. The best way to acchieve this is thorugh reward-based training, so you end up with a massive, powerfull dog that thinks the best thing in the world is to do what YOU tell him to do :)

Other types of 'training' (such as that of Cesar Milan) works on the basis of basically bullying the dog - not nice for any dog but forget that with a mastiff, he will not be bullied (you should allready know from research that mastiff do not respond well to harsh training) and you are likely to end up getting hurt.
Treat your dog with kindess and respect and he'll do the same to you :)
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / At what age can I feed my puppy a raw diet?

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