Hi everyone,
I was browsing through the online ads for dogs this morning and came across this site-
www.poshpuppies.co.uk
I've seen them advertising several breeds of dog in various free ads papers. I was just wondering if anyone else has taken a look at the site, or if anyone would take a look at the site and give me their opinion.
I'm not one for knowing much about pedigrees and affixes but they have a list of their stud dogs' pedigrees and quite a few of them seem to have champions in their pedigrees. I'm not sure if it's a puppy farm or what..?
Anyone with any information about this place, please contact me. I'm interested to find out.
Alice

Hi Alice
I've been on and had a peep.
It's very nicely put together and presented but it does describe itself as *a family business* so I suppose as such you could term it a puppy farm. :(
Looked at the breeds available and the studs, was surprised that they keep so many studs in breeds they don't breed
The pedigrees look ok, but then I'm not in any of the breeds so don't know the names or lines but can say that the *red* writing was mainly sire's! Anyone can go to a CH stud, imho it's the bitches that matter! Did notice though that none of the names on the pedigree's appear to be linked i.e. line breeding etc so it would appear that their stud dogs had totally unrelated parents, which makes you wonder if they would do much investigation into the lines of bitches brought to them to use studs.
They say that pups are normally available so they must have a bit of a production line going, but then they must be licensed and inspected so perhaps although they appear to be exploiting their dogs they are kept well, one can only hope they are kept well anyway! :rolleyes:
Nicky

These people are commercial breeders presenting themselves as "reputable breeders" - if they have "puppies normally available" in all the breeds they list, then you can guess how many litters they produce :-( I notice in all their breed descriptions, there is no mention of any hereditary problems - needless to say, there is also no mention of any health screening tests carried out on their stock & of course, no surnames of the proprietors mentioned or their affix (even supposing that they have one) I'm guessing because their site is prettily laid out & it all sounds very inviting to the uninitiated, then they will undoubtedly attract plenty of would-be buyers

Jane

Hi Alice,

I had a quick look at the Cocker info (I have a 9mth old Cocker) and was surprised to see that they say His coat will need trimming by a professional dog groomer. This isn't the case as I hand strip my cocker, as do most other owners that I know.

To my mind this would indicate that they don't really know anything about the breed and wouldn't really offer any sort of quality aftercare.

I was also surprised to see that they have so many different breeds available to stud yet they don't breed them at all. The constant comments of puppies normally available would make me think they're nothing short of puppy farmers and should be avoided at all costs. They also don't mention if they health check any of their dogs/bitches before they breed from them.

jmho,

Fiona
x x x

I was not going to look as I get mad..but curiosity got the better of me..

Pedigrees hello..no affix on nearly all the bitches..what does that possibly say. IMHO of course only.

30 Years experince..

Well I mailed to ask some polite questions as after all I am looking for a good stud dog..

If anyone wants to see amil and reply please mail me..

Night all.. have you read my jokes yet..

Pam

I'm curious!

I'm very curious to!

lorraine

Amazing what you can get away with if you have a flashy website, isn't it???

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

Hi all,
Thanks for the replies. It disgusts me to think that people like these are making a damn good living out of exploiting their dogs in this way. Their quote on the website "Puppies normally available" should probably read "Puppies ALWAYS available"- they have been advertising weekly in the free ads paper Adtrader, usually at least one litter for sale but sometimes two. Every few weeks a new breed crops up, this week they are advertising Rottweiler puppies.
I'd be very interested to read the response to the e-mail. Anyone know of any more websites such as this?
Alice and the dogs :)

I had to look to see if they had any Weimaraners as this is my
breed. They have a stud dog advertised and the pedigree
is wrong in places. I have no idea who these people are.
Nutkin

Suprising thing is they don't mention the only dog they actually breed. Or say they breed, nothing but another puppy farm outlet. Ja:)kie

If the pedigree is wrong it ought to be pointed out!

The penny has just dropped. I had someone contact me from
Horncastle wanting to use my stud dog. The name of the lady
was Madeline same as this site. It must be the same woman.
I will not let her use my dog now after reading this site.
Thing is they dont say they have Weimaraner puppies do they.
They only mention a stud dog. The lady that had contacted me
owned four bitches she told me. It could be someone different
but it seems rather strange.
I have asked someone in our breed to look at the site and go
through the pedigree of the stud dog. When I looked at
it I knew some were wrong but before I start shouting I wanted
to know if any other dogs were wrong.

Hi Nutkin,
They were advertising Weimaraner puppies not so long ago. I will find out the exact date for you and get back to you.

Thanks Bramble that would be great.
It seems as though they may go around trying to get
good dogs for stud and the owners do not know
that they are puppy farmers.
According to a lady I contacted in our club the
pedigree is very wrong and also the dog is registered
in someone elses name. So we are not quite sure
what is going on here. It might not be the loving
place they say it is.
Nutkin

I am new to the 'dog lover club' and therefore still learning about breeds, pedigrees, reputable breeders etc. I found a great breeder on recommendation so I didn't have to go looking. Will someone please tell me what this is all about and what is unacceptable in a breeders set up. Sorry for being naive.

Hi
Just been to look at the site and IMO it looks like someone breeding to make money!!!!
Had a look at the Extras you get if you buy from them!
Quote:
When you buy your puppy from Posh Puppies, you will also receive the following:-
Free bag of food
6 weeks free insurance
3 generation pedigree
Trendy silver bowl
Cute squeaky toy
Sports bag to keep everything together

There is no mention of vetting potental new owners!!
How long before it is buy one get one free????

Most people consider the breeding of dogs a hobby/passtime. The aim of which is to improve on ones stock, and breed correct to a breed standard or purpose. The selling of puppies is secondary to this primary aim. The breeder considers themselves responsible for ensuring the pups they breed are typical, healthy, and sell only where they consider that the pup will have every expectation of being a lifetime companion. any actual profit made on a litter is ploughed back into the hobby of shoing/working and caring for the breders dogs.

There are those whose sole interest is breeding dogs as a saleable commodity. Profit and loss is paramount, and the aim is to produce at least cost for most profit. There is no interest in the Quality of the PRODUCT. If owners are unhappy with a poorly pup, then there is always the possibility to shut them up with another puppy.

Their idea of vetting prospective new owners is to ensure they have the means to pay!!!!

As this second type of breeder has little interest in the suitability of the potential owner to have a puppy of that breed, and do not generally take back unwanted ITEMS then they are responsible for the vast majority of the pedigree dogs coming into rescue. Reputable breeders take back, or make provision for their breeding.

Well said, Brainless.
Nicky

Im going to check some of my BRS for my breed, have got the quarter from April to June 2001 and they have registered 5 litters for that period, one a litter of 9 puppies!!!!! will check some of my other ones as well. Ive e mailed them for advice on their stud dog so will let you know the outcome, ive also got their affix if anyone wants to check the BRS on their breed.

Hi Irene,
As I'm relatively new to here, I was just wondering what is your breed?
I would be really interested to hear any information you find out about this place and the numbers of litters they are producing. It seems to me that they have a different breed every week! (Well, nearly). Last week they were advertising Pembroke Corgis, this week its Rottweilers! Makes me mad :(

Oh and by the way...
Nutkin, I was going to e-mail you directly but your address is hidden so I'll post it on here.
Ok...the outlet advertised Weimaraner puppies for sale on the week of the 12th June, in the free ads paper "Adtrader". The advert reads as follows:
"Weimaraner Puppies, two males only, both parents have excellent pedigree and can be seen, vet checked, wormed to date, 6 weeks free insurance, puppy packs available." The selling price of the pups was £350.
I'm no expert on Weimaraners as they aren't my breed, so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this rather cheap for a Weimaraner pup? Mind you, it doesn't mention that the puppies are Kennel Club registered. They're probably alternatively registered. I might go on the site again and ask them a few questions...
Anyway hope this helps. :) I'd be interested in anything you find out!

Sorry Bramble I will have to alter my setting on my name so my
e-mail address is included.
My e-mail address is
r-savage@the-homestead.freeserve.co.uk
So far I have found out the stud dog is one they bought in as an older
dog.
Whats the affix? Perhaps dont post it on the site but just to me then
we can check out how many litters are being produced at this place.
Also the pedigree is wrong and thats all I have found out so far. I have
a few detectives (Weimaraner lovers) on the case.lol. They are trying
to find out just how many litters they are producing.
Yes Bramble they are cheap.
The price of a Weim is £500-00 upwards. Perhaps they are not registered,
but I do not know.
Thanks for your help Bramble.
Nutkin

Hi Jane, Have e mailed you back with the affix, now for everyone else, I had another look on the terriers, and the border terrier they are advertising for stud, was supposed to be born this year, when in fact it was born last year, and the sires name is wrong, surprise, surprise, isn't the BRS a wonderfull piece of knowledge, pity it did not give out names and addresses, it would be easier to keep track of the "iffy" breeders. My breed is westies and very rarely does a westie produce 9 puppies most litters are either 4/5or 6 pups, or smaller.

This definatly sounds very odd. When I read what you got in addition to when you buy the puppy, I could understand some of it but what is the point of a 'sports bag'????
In the picture at the bottom of the Weimaraner's stud page, in the picture there is clearly at least 2 more in there, probably bitches!
I thought that there was something dodgy with the registrations. I will try and look in the Gundog BRS's and see whether they are going into anything else.

I think people think that bitches are just breeding machines & I am glad that the KC put a restiction on bitches but in some ways it is not enough. I would be intreeged to go round there lookng I at a puppy but say I only want to look & I have several other litters to look at before I make any desicion. We did that once and the breeder who was clearly a puppy farmer & we had only gone to look got very cross with us!!! And rang us and we just said that we had decided that we weren't ready for a puppy even though we were never going to have one and we have our own labradors!!

Becci

P.S - Please could you let me have their Affix & there surname as it would help in looking etc!!!!

Irene
Would you e-mail me the affix it would be a real help.
I posted my e-mail further up.
Many thanks
Nutkin