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Topic Dog Boards / Health / sarcoptic mange - treament
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 15.10.09 09:02 UTC
one of my dogs has just been treated with aludox wash - 2 washes 2 weeks apart. it has cured him and he has stopped itching. I think my other dog has it as she is itching a lot but another vet i saw at a different practise said the aludox is quite a severe treament and recommended strong hold or advocate. Are these treaments as effective and quick.

my sister recommened revolution spot on.

any thoughts??
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 15.10.09 13:19 UTC
managed to buy revolution which is the same as strong hold on line without a prescription being needed.

Any thoughts on other treatments welcome.
- By Zajak [gb] Date 15.10.09 21:09 UTC
Where did you get the revolution from as i understood it to be prescription only. Could do with getting some.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 15.10.09 21:14 UTC

>revolution which is the same as strong hold on line without a prescription being needed.


Revolution is Prescription only and anywhere selling it without is breaking the law.
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 15.10.09 21:15 UTC
most sites i looked it was prescription only but 'discount vet supplies.co.uk' do it without. my vet practice charges £10 to give you a prescription!
- By Pugnacious [gb] Date 18.10.09 13:26 UTC
Where did you get the Aludrox wash from, is that a precription only treatment? I have seven furballs and a litter of week old babes. One of my toy breeds has developed mange horribly over a fortnight, without me really noticing until it was screamingly obvious. She has a very glossy, healthy looking black coat! My Vet supplied Stronghold and I have treated the whole pack. I must admit it seems to have worked, but the worst affected dog is still scratching, purely due to the disgusting residual thick scabs. Obviously, she is vulnerable to a secondary skin infection and I have bathed her lots this week with Hibiscrub with little effect.Any ideas please?
- By Pugnacious [gb] Date 18.10.09 13:44 UTC
I think it is high time that products like this should be freely available without prescription. What point is there in vets being legally obliged to provide prescriptions on request when they charge for them? Obviously consumers want them in order to shop elsewhere to save money.I could have saved myself £10 or more, by buying from 'discounts vets' online, which when all considered, allows me to benefit. I would rather give the £10 to a dog rescue. Please let's not spoil this ourselves by whistle blowing. I work in law enforcement, but surely this is one piece of legislation which should change, especially when animal owners are supposed to not fall foul of the Animal Welfare Act. My vets profit enormously from me personally and I am not a commercial breeder.
- By JeanSW Date 18.10.09 14:28 UTC

> Please let's not spoil this ourselves by whistle blowing.


> I work in law enforcement, but surely this is one piece of legislation which should change, especially when animal owners are supposed to not fall foul of the Animal Welfare Act. My vets profit enormously from me personally and I am not a commercial breeder.


I'm with you entirely on this one!

And I'm employed by the people responsible for the Animal Welfare Act.  So I appreciate where you're coming from.

I'm not a commercial breeder either, but guess that people like us are extremely aware of our pets welfare.

I am lucky in as much as my vet doesn't charge me for prescriptions.  But, like you, I do help their finances!  So far this year over £4,000 vets bills, and last year was £7,000 (bad year.)

My vet actually asked me what I was paying for Panacur (guess he wanted my business if he could get it), but when I told him what I'm paying, he couldn't touch it.

I would never, ever compromise the welfare of my beloved dogs, but, like you, need to contain costs where I can.
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 19.10.09 07:25 UTC
The aludox was from the vet as needs prescription plus i needed diagnosis of what was causing his itching.

'whistle blowing' - are you refering to me because i named a web site? i only did this in answer to where i got the revolution from, i am sorry if this offended but why shouldn't we share details of where to things cheaper etc.

vets expenses are high and i will always go if my dogs need to but i do get annoyed when sometimes when you know whats the matter with your dog and just need the stuff to treat your dog but cant get it without the expense of a consultation first.
- By JeanSW Date 19.10.09 16:44 UTC

> 'whistle blowing' - are you refering to me because i named a web site?


I don't believe that anyone was getting at you!  :-)

I think the response was to someone else, and, to be honest, most of us do share details with others when it comes to getting things for our dogs at a good price.
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 20.10.09 10:45 UTC
phew, thought i has caused up set.
- By flyball [gb] Date 25.10.09 11:29 UTC Edited 25.10.09 11:38 UTC
I hate to spoil anyone's fun but 'discount vet supplies.co.uk' is not quite what you think it is. I once ordered Advocate from them then cancelled really quickly when i found out that although they might use a .co.uk domain, don't let that fool you because they are not a uk based company. Anyone can buy a .co.uk domain. They are operated from overseas which is why you don't need a prescription. You will find the call centre they use is also not based in the UK. Look at the wording on the site & by the phone number, it says 'Call Toll Free'. Toll free? Who ever uses that term to describe  freephone numbers inside the UK?

Sounds great but don't forget if uk customs intercept your order you might find yourself having to answer some awkward questions as to why you are importing licenced goods without the required prescription or a possible fine, and yes... it comes back on YOU the consumer for buying a product that you knew was meant to be prescription only.

If you are happy to take that risk then good luck to you, but remember there is a very good reason why these products are only sold under licence in the UK. Can you be sure the place they are being imported from for distribution in the UK has the same stingent rules if they are prepared to break the UK laws regarding the sale of prescription medications?

It's not always a good thing to pick the cheaper option.
- By flyball [gb] Date 25.10.09 11:49 UTC
Just another thought, thier trading address does not exist. The one they have on the website is actually the address for the Marie Curie Cancer Care charity shop in Mill Hill, which suggests hey are operating from a flat above the shop.
- By flyball [gb] Date 25.10.09 12:30 UTC Edited 25.10.09 12:34 UTC
Don't get me wrong, i also think it's high time we were able to buy these essential products without prescription, but that time is not now & until then we need to beware of false Gods as such.. especially when a website goes to such extraordinary lengths to dupe people into thinking they are a UK company when they are not. After a further search on the domain it appears that they are actually registered from a PO BOX in the Virgin Islands, which explains how they are able get round the rules regarding the sale of prescription medications. Personally i would rather pay my Vet and have peace of mind then buy products from a company that is clearly decieving it's customers.

Domain name:
        discountvetsupplies.co.uk

    Registrant:
        Pet Supplies International

    Registrant type:
        Unknown

    Registrant's address:
        c/- Harneys
        PO Box 71
        Road Town
        VG1110
        Virgin Islands (British)

    Registrar:
        EuroDNS SA [Tag = DCLUX-LU]
        URL: http://www.eurodns.com

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 31-Dec-2007
        Renewal date:  31-Dec-2009
        Last updated:  04-Jun-2009

    Registration status:
        No longer required

    Name servers:
        ns17.qualispace.com
        ns18.qualispace.com
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 25.10.09 12:55 UTC
Excellent detective work, flyball. It just goes to show how easy it is to fool people.
- By flyball [gb] Date 25.10.09 13:55 UTC Edited 25.10.09 14:06 UTC
You know,, looking at the site i now remember what it was that made me suspicous was that i noticed after placing my order that they did not have an address at all on there when i ordered, that made me a bit wary. The Mill Hill address was not there before. Then i noticed the actual wording on some parts in the terms & conditions seemed to imply they were outside the UK, this part in particular highlighted below we know is not true of licenced products like Advocate because if we are to believe this is a UK based website then we all know it is NOT available for purchase without a prescription in this country, yet that's exactly what they are claiming in thier terms.

. Unless otherwise indicated all products supplied by discountvetsupplies.com are registered with relevant authorities in the jurisdiction from which they are shipped and are available for purchase in that jurisdiction without prescription. Regulatory requirements differ between countries. The products supplied by DiscountVetSupplies.co.uk may not be approved for sale in your country by the relevant regulatory authorities or may not be approved for sale in the packaging from which they are shipped. Some products may require a prescription from a vet.

What that says to me is that the products are registered with the relevant authorities in the country they are being shipped FROM & can be bought in THAT country without a prescription. Well unless the law has changed overnight you can't buy Advocate in THIS country without a script.

Don't get me wrong guys, i'm not saying you should write the company off, i am however extremely suspicous as to why it is purporting to be a UK site when it does not seem to know (or care) that certain licenced products are not available for sale in the UK without a prescription. This can only mean it is being shipped from outside the duristiction of current UK licencing laws. Only my opinion of course but i find it all very fishy indeed & when we are dealing with chemicals that we plan to squirt over our dogs skin then i'd sooner know it was being sold in accordance with UK Laws, which afterall are there for our protection as consumers. If we already know they are not being sold in accordance with UK licensing laws, then i think we can assume they are probably not being made in accordance with UK licensing Laws. Not a risk i would take myself, but that's just me.
- By Pugnacious [gb] Date 27.10.09 16:32 UTC
No Lorripop, I wasn't getting at you. The point I was wanting to make was that if we have found somewhere to buy without a prescription, I think that's something worth keeping quiet about- Unethical, illegal or whatever.
:D
- By Boxacrazy [gb] Date 27.10.09 16:37 UTC
I too would rather buy from my vet or a reputable pet pharmacy such as Hyperdrug/canine chemists.

At least you can be assured that the goods won't be counterfeit either.
- By Lorripop [gb] Date 27.10.09 19:36 UTC
received the Revolution yesterday and is the real stuff as far as i can tell as exactly the same as before.

Did not know it came from else where until i noticed on the pack a customs thingy.

Guess i'll take my chances as i have a lot to buy with 5 dogs and a cat so i do want to save some pennies where i can.
- By flyball [gb] Date 28.10.09 09:47 UTC Edited 28.10.09 09:50 UTC
As long as you remember that if you do end up with a fake batch or an unlicensed product that poisons your dog, you'll have no recourse whatsoever & the company you bought it from illegally will probably say 'whatever'.

UK laws regarding the sale of prescription medications are there for a very good reason to protect the consumer. I can't understand why on earth people would think it such a good thing to find a trader who is happy to sell prescription only products without a valid prescription by disregarding UK safety regulations.
Topic Dog Boards / Health / sarcoptic mange - treament

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