how do you do your stud fees.

£100 a puppy?
£300 per season?
price of a puppy?

what do you do?

what is best?

In Pom's it's really cheap, only paid £150 for a champion three years ago.  Spanish are the price of a pup though.

charge what ever you think is reasonable

Last stud i looked at it was 1200. Although i know of one which is 1500 at the moment. I dont think either is particulary over priced. You get what you pay for.

Rather less than the price of a puppy (per season, not per mating, and with free repeat/s at the next season if unsuccessful).

Less than half the price of a puppy, up to 3 matings (both dogs still willing) 48hrs apart with a free return on next season if there is a miss

You get what you pay for  I think this saying is true occasionally but just that occasionally.   I would have to say that a stud fee price is in now way going to ascertain what you are paying for.   My breed it goes from £200 to £350 but the top and bottom price don't vary in quality or what they produce the only difference is who owns them. :-)

its me that has the bitch, i am hoping to put a dog with her when she is 2, i know the owners to the dog most suitible. i just dont want to be over charged, he is being used soon for the first time as a stud so i will find out how much was charged then, and i can go by the puppies of that litter, as that bitch is a close relation to my bitch.

thanks for all the help.

I'd say you do what is the norm in the breed.

im not sure what the norm is, but i dont want to be ripped off, and its nice to no what others do.

I do believe that it depends on the breed.  There seems a huge difference in charges.  I have a boy that I charge £200 for, and that is for as many covers as the bitch will stand for.  I usually know the bitch owner, and the girl stays with me.  The last twice I have personally paid £250 to use boys on my own bitches.  Yet I had an exhibitor visit from up north that couldn't believe how cheap it was down here.  She reckoned that one show stud was charging £500 PLUS pick of litter.  Given that the breed averages 1-3 pups, I was gobsmacked!

>i just dont want to be over charged

All breeds vary. Your best bet would be to contact the breed club. They should have some idea of the top price and lowest.

>he is being used soon for the first time as a stud so i will find out how much was charged then,

You often find that the fee for an unproven dog is less than when he's proven.

The usual fee in my breed is between £250 and £400, the last stud I used was a champ and he cost me £700. But in my eyes, worth every penny!

Fees vary wildly from one breed to another, as do the arrangements.
Most arrangements in the breed (and many others) is two matings 48 hours apart or the bitch stays and is covered for as long as she will allow with a free return should she miss. Payment is at the time.

I know in breeds, like bulldogs, some kennels work it as a handling fee of around £75 with the rest of the fee paid on production of pups (sometimes priced per pup, sometimes a round fee).

If you do some research into your own breed you should be able to pick out a pattern for what is the 'norm' :)

i have a show soon and i will ask there, the two proper breeders are there, and i will ask them

I am a bit puzzled by one or two threads recently which focus heavily on cost/bartering/not being ripped off for puppy costs, stud fees etc.  I know we are in a credit crunch, but if someone started trying to barter with me about a stud fee I would seriously wonder if they were prepared for the patentailly enormous costs which can be incurred in having a litter!  As far as I am concerned stud fees are set by the dogs owner, and not open to negotiation on price.  You need to ascertain (preferably in writing if you are not a close friend of the owner) just what is included, ie, how many matings, free return etc, also if you get the KC form at time of mating/payment/production of live pups.  But the amount you pay is, in my experience, not open to negotiation.  As reviously posted, it varies enormously from breed to breed, in one of my breeds the stud fee is somewhere between £500 to £700, with puppy prices around the £700 mark.  In my other breed stud fees are around £250 to £400 (some a little higher) but pups are usually £1000 to £1200.  So there is not a correlation of puppy/stud prices across the board.

> i have a show soon and i will ask there, the two proper breeders are there, and i will ask them

Do you mean the owner of the stud dog is not what you consider to be a "proper breeder"?  If so are they knowledgeable in stud work if both dog and bitch (and you) are inexperienced.  How have you arrived at this dog being ideally suited to your bitch?  IF I read the post correctly he has sired just one litter, so you are working in the dark about what he is producing.  Is it a breed with a very small gene pool so limited number of dogs available, which is why you have settled on this one?  There are so mnay factors to consider when choosing a stud, cost is very low on the list of priorities.

In the breed this thread is related to there is often not a stud charge.  Frequently you will get a free mating if the owner of the stud dog can also have a free mating from your stud dog for one of their bitches later down the line.  It is also common practice to have a free mating, but the stud owners are given one of the puppies (of their choice) in return.  I flat fee a would imagine would be just under or equal to the cost of a puppy.

In response to Gwen the stud is unproven, but given the owners profession they have more than enough knowledge, and his first bitch belongs to one of the breeds largest kennels in the UK so they will have a knowledgeable helping hand there.  We have a tiny gene pool so every mating in the country and every import is very carefully thought over by more than just the owner.  I'm sure the poster was just trying to get a rough idea of how much they will have to put together before asking the blunt question to a stud owner.  Just wanted to put your concerns to rest that this may be a 'you have a dog, I have a bitch lets get them together and make some money' mating!

Oh and I have my math right the puppies from the studs first litter will be approaching a year before this mating can take place, so even more information to go on/ go in a different direction if what is produced is not liked!

i have never bred with my bitch before, in my breed teh puppies go for around £1000, i didnt want eth owner of the dog to say £1000, he is a good dog but he has some faults, well in my eyes he does, but in others he only has own, but his good points out way teh bad.

tha owner of teh stud dog is not a breeder she is an owner that shows like me, he will have been used as a stud once before my bitch, but we are going to sort out meeting with a breeder so they can help out.
my bitch isnt completely inexperienced she has been caught by a neutered dog, but it wasnt properly done.
and cost is low in my priorities in breeding, i was just wanted to know

The last stud fee I paid was £250, 3 years ago, but in the same breed some stud dog owners are asking £500.

The last stud fee I paid was £250, 3 years ago, but in the same breed some stud dog owners are asking £500.

prices for everything are going up, from food to stud fees.

i think the best way to find out what the 'norm' is would be to ask people in your breed

> dog but he has some faults

some is the wrong word, two is the right one.

In my breed its the same price as a pup but we don't usually pay at time of mating, rather when the pups are on the ground.   

In our breed it is the price of a puppy, usually paid after pups arrive. 

Some people will charge a non refundable service charge of say £50 at time of mating, for their time and trouble (especially if the stud is owned by several pweople, but oen person ahs the trouble of hosting the matings) or this fee will go to the person handling the mating for the stud owner etc.