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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / SURVIVAL WEIGHTS
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 20.07.09 14:48 UTC
Just looking for a bit of advice, small breed dog had pups today 4 all over 200gms and 1 only weighs 140gms. Last year I had a pup similar size and it died at 1 day old what do you think its chances are.  All been checked by vet and are healthy, putting it on back teats is there anthing else that I can do to give it a good chance at survival.

Linda
- By denese [gb] Date 20.07.09 15:33 UTC
Just make sure it gets its drink first, as the bigger ones will push it off. Check every feed and make sure mom does not lay on it. If it is healthy, size is not a problem. Like a tiny baby just needs a little extra care.
It will soon catch up.

Denese
- By SharonM Date 20.07.09 15:48 UTC
My last litter of 7 MEDIUM size breed were: 334grms, 334grms, 368grms, 322grms, 318grms, 290grms, ......then the very last boy was 140grms!! Frightened me as I had never had a pup that size, although he remained smaller than the rest he was fine, fed well (I obviously watched to make sure he wasn't being pushed off) once on solids he ate really well, just did exactly the same as his siblings, just a mini version!
- By JeanSW Date 20.07.09 17:16 UTC
Before I started with a new toy breed, I read all I could on it, as I had only previously bred Toy Poodles and Yorkshire Terriers.  According to one lot of research, any pup under 3ozs was not viable. 

I had a litter born with an exceptionally weany girl that weighed two and three quarter ounces.  It was a litter of 3, so plenty of nipples if she was going to live.  For something so diddy, she has a suction like one of those plunger things.  Feeding very well, and, although she is still only 400gms at 5 weeks, I think we are out of the woods.  So, never say never!

Apart from checking that she can latch on properly, I have not given her any supplements, or treated her different to the 4oz pups.
- By white lilly [gb] Date 20.07.09 17:25 UTC
thats great !!!! theres always hope :)x
- By SharonM Date 20.07.09 17:57 UTC
Wow, 2.3/4oz now that is teeny weeny.......my little boy went down to 4.8oz and I thought that was small!

Fantastic news that the pup is doing so well
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 20.07.09 22:16 UTC
Thanks to you all feel a little better now, keeping my fingers crossed.

Linda
- By JeanSW Date 20.07.09 23:06 UTC

> Wow, 2.3/4oz now that is teeny weeny


Have to say I've seen bigger mouses!!!!!   :-)  :-)  :-)  But she can even do a GRRR!!!!   :-)
- By beaglelady [au] Date 21.07.09 04:37 UTC Edited 21.07.09 07:41 UTC
A friend of mine recently had a litter of 10 babies and the smallest was only 135grms.  This pup was tiny and very skinny but normal in all other respects.  He thrived with a little help ensuring he was on feeding with the rest of the litter and not pushed off by bigger pups as already suggested by the other posters.
- By Abbeypap [gb] Date 21.07.09 09:42 UTC
I had a Papillon pup at two ounces who lived till he was 11 years old, and managed to pick up two breed club Best In Show awards and one CC.

The only thing extra I did for him was to make sure he didn't get knocked off when feeding from his mum.
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 21.07.09 09:50 UTC
just an update he got through the night, what made me laugh was mum sood up and moved round the box and the little one was still attached and not letting go.  he has put on 6grms overnight so pleased for him.  Thanks all

Linda
- By gwen [gb] Date 21.07.09 15:43 UTC
Well done, glad to see he is doing well.  My current litter, have 3 who were 4.5 to 6 oz, and a tiny girl at just  about 3 oz.  however, she was very determined.  I had to bottle feed for first 2 days as Mum had no Milk, but after that she got on at every feed and held tight!  I have noticed wiht this litter, and the last litter I had that the back teats are not necessarily the best.  I always assumed they were,  but with Bunty the back ones are a bit hard ot get going, and the tiny ones almsot in her arm pits (so hard to get hold of) have loads and loads of milk.  So always worth checking out each individual whelping, rather than just assuming (as I always have in the past) that back ones are best.
- By itsadogslife [gb] Date 22.07.09 17:19 UTC Edited 22.07.09 21:40 UTC
With our recent litter, all were over 12 oz at birth and half way through out popped an 8oz baby. I was shocked, he wouldn't suckle straight off (I think he had a traumatic passage) so we bottle fed him the first night. We kept a close eye on him, and by the time they all went to their new homes, you wouldn't have been able to tell him from the others. Also, when the litter was assessed, he came out as number one!

With my bitch, the teats first row forward from the very back two seemed to have the most milk. With a weaker pup, I always put a vigorous pup on the teat first to get the milk flowing, then put the weaker one on. They don't have to work so hard and it really worked! A tip that I'll definitely be taking with me for any future whelpings...
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 23.07.09 14:11 UTC
Pom's are usually only around 2ozs at birth and the majority survive  Quite a difference to the size of the Spanish who are 5 times the size of a Pom puppy :)
- By white lilly [gb] Date 23.07.09 16:01 UTC
sounds like hes got a VERY good suck on him :)....glad hes going well x
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 24.07.09 10:26 UTC
Well fergus as he is known has put on 65grams so i'm chuffed thanks to you all for your support.

Linda
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / SURVIVAL WEIGHTS

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