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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / HELP!!! new dogs just bitten, food agressive!!!!
- By weec1984 [gb] Date 29.06.09 18:08 UTC
just got a Tibetan Terrier today from rescue,  hes one.   I also have another TT and a GSD.  First time i've fed him, the other 2 feed in seperate rooms but can go near eachothers bowls with no problems.  I put Clyde's bowl away from the other 2,  he went near the other TT's bowl so i tried to move him away and got bitten twice for my trouble!! nothing bad, broke the skin a bit.   I tried to put him on his side,  he flew a strop.   what do i do?!!   HELP!!!
- By Astarte Date 29.06.09 18:13 UTC

> I tried to put him on his side,  he flew a strop


first off, were you trying to 'alpha roll' him? if so DO NOT DO THIS. consider this, if you were in a new, strange place with new strange people and one tried to stop you eating (he thinks its his) then tried to pin you down how would you feel?

you need to work on getting him to trust you. leave him be to eat for a bit, if you want something from him trade it for a titbit, eventually ask for his attention when eating and offer him a tasty titbit (i suggest tossing it gently to him to start to avoid him feeling defensive), then slowly start to add it to the bowl. it will take a long time but will be worth it.

do you know anything about his past?
- By weec1984 [gb] Date 29.06.09 18:19 UTC
yeh i did and now you saying that,  maybe not the best thing to do with him!! maybe the other dogs food smells better than his.  All i know is that his previous owner was going to put him to sleep as they didnt want him anymore.  i think hes just a young dog whos been shown no bounderies.   will feed him in another room away from the other two,  if he goes near instead of pulling him away i'll trade with something tasty
- By Astarte Date 29.06.09 18:49 UTC
good stuff :) it will just take time and patience. you need to make sure he associates you with nice things happening- e.g. food, toys and cuddles than bad things happening- food going away and alpha rolls.

work on getting him to focus his attention on you. just randomly get him to sit and look at you for a treat, if he learns this off by heart you'll be able to get him to focus on you in more interesting situations- when there is food or new people or other dogs etc. this is hard - i'm still working on it months down the line but you will hopefully at least see improvements quickly.

valuble foods are helpful- try liver cake, cheese, garlic sausage etc.
- By dogs a babe Date 29.06.09 19:42 UTC
If he's come into your home straight from rescue today he's bound to feel very unsettled by the experience.  I'd just ignore him for a few days whilst he adjusts to your routines.  By that I don't mean you should be harsh and withold attention but just leave him be for a while.  Don't ask too much of him and do give him access to quiet places where he can go if it all gets a bit much for him.

It's a lot for a new dog to learn, and eating in the company of strange dogs can be very difficult.  He isn't likely to understand why he can't look at the others bowls and if he's hungry he'll be even more motivated to stick his head in there!  Be guided by him and also by your other dogs to tell you if they are ready to eat nearby, some people have to keep dogs separate for every mealtime and until one of your dogs tells him not to he'll see no reason why he can't eat their food too :)  Actually I'd take it a positive sign that he is willing to eat at all on day one.  I've known dogs that just won't ever eat in strange houses or in front of others.

It's much too soon to label him food aggressive but you're right, he may need some boundaries.  However, I'd caution against too many rules too soon - give him a chance to get to know you, and for you to observe him.  Whatever you see on day one isn't likely to give you a true picture of the sort of chap he is.  Far from being grateful to be rehomed some dogs get very stressed and good manners go right out of the window...

Good luck with him and well done for taking him on
- By bear [gb] Date 30.06.09 07:43 UTC
Not a good idea feeding a new dog with the other two and really not the dogs fault for trying to get the others food.
From now on make sure you feed him in a different room from the other two, there's no need for this situation to happen if you do it this way.
i always feed my three dogs in different places, not because i have had any problems but because there's no point even risking anything happening. it really doesn't matter if their all fed in separate rooms as long as it works.
You put your new dog in a stressful situation and things could of been a lot worst, a lot of dogs can't eat in the same space so don't worry about it just separate them at meal times.
i got my TT at six and half months and she was only used to kennels so very good with other dogs but nervous of just about everything else. She's a year old next week and i'm still working on building up her confidence with sounds and people, saying that she's come a long way and really trusts me.
You need to stay calm and have a lot of patience and  he will then learn to trust you in time. i never shout at my TT and always use distraction rather than telling her off, she really is turning into a fantastic dog.
i would suggest that you enroll in some training classes so you can build up a relationship with him and teach him commands that you can use to control his behaviour. take him out for separate walks from the other dogs so he listens to you and make sure you have lots of fun together so he wants to be with you.  
This dog will take a while to settle so just give it time and avoid any situations that may make him feel stressed, reward him for all his good behaviour and win his trust.
So glad you've given this dog a chance of  new home for life, he must be very confused at the moment poor thing.    
- By LurcherGirl [gb] Date 30.06.09 08:41 UTC
I agree with the other posters that feeding him separately at least for now is the answer. All our dogs (4) eat in the kitchen at the same time, but all dogs know not to take anything from any other bowl. It works without problems. However, any new dog in our house is fed in their crate for a good while until I have enough control over them to stop them interfering with the other dogs.

Vera
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