Does anybody here use this method of training?  Could you point me towards some printable training guides?  This method is supposed to have originated in the U.K. but all I can find on-line for training is a 2 DVD set that is expensive.  I'd like to support the fellow Canadian, Susan Garrett, who puts out the DVDs but, my gosh, I'm not made of money.  If there is another source I'd like to at least have the chance to consider it.

Haven't heard of this before so did a quick search.  Have you looked on youtube? 

Yes and a lot of it is Susan Garrett.  The videos I found are all only short snippets of what is done.  Our agility trainer says she can teach me this method but I only see her once a week and you do this for 12 consecutive days.  I just think I'll need some training help on the 10 days I'm on my own and would like to conserve my moolah if possible.

I can see some people have videoed up to day 3 only and even then their methods vary.  It seems a great idea to train the dog to go through itself rather than being dependent on being lured through.  I did a training session the other day where the trainer put plastic barrier stuff around the poles to make a channel and sent us to the end to call the dog through.  That would not be a natural thing for me because my dog can get to the weaves well before me so I have to send her on.   I am still doing keeping pace with my dog and just the flutter of an eye lid will pull her out too early - very very difficult.

max was taught with a lure and he is very reliant on it but jess has taught connor with the channel weaves as described above he did a fantastic entry the other day so wouldnt right that method off completely wish max had been taught that way 

Google Video's will give you a much wider set of sessions then just you tube...

I've only looked at one of the videos so don't fully know how this method works (will have a good look when time permits).

At my club we train weaves through channels (ETA with no netting or guides) and Esme is the only one I've trained this way. Although they are still about 6 inches apart I can send her in from right or left and from a fair distance. The club has found this the best method in getting them happy to work away from you, which is very useful, especially with fast dogs. All my others I've lured them through with food, and still have to be up with them in competition, which obviously loses time.

Just been trying to look up topic on Agility addicts - people seem to prefer channel weaves because of time element in training and keeping a dog motivated.   However I thought that setting up the channel weaves was very time consuming and the class was very slow because of it - some dogs kept jumping out of it too.  I thought it was a bit clumsy and as soon as you take the channels away it becomes a different object in the dogs eyes.

Ice-queen thank you - that is a much better set as you say - brilliant.

I think the importance with channels is to have them fairly wide apart to begin with and only gradually bring them in. Once they are in far enough, in that the dog is wiggling, the progress to straights is pretty quick. If they are coming out, then they need moving farther apart again.

From that search on google I have found that one person has put her training with one dog from day 1 to 16 on there.  

Glad thast of help.  Google serches are much better as it's not as limited and will pick up video's from people blogs and other sharing sites :)

Good luck with the training. :)

Our club teaches using the channel weaves and it doesn't take very long for the dogs to start finding their own entry. The channel has to start off fairly wide so the dog is actually going in a straight line between them and then the gap is slowly closed until the dog is having to wiggle to get through them. One of my dogs is really fast and I wouldn't be able to keep up with him but this method of training encourages working away from you.

Another thing I have had to do with both my dogs is to change the command I use for the weave. I used to say "weave" but found the dogs were coming out of the channel - one of the instructors asked me if my dogs knew a "leave" command, which they do, and suggested I change the command to "poles" so they weren't getting confused between being asked to weave and being asked to leave. It has made such a difference :-)

It's 10 years since I did any agility and then Jet, the wonder dog, picked everything up in no time flat.  Even weaves.  Oban, not so, he actually needs to be trained which means I do too.

Our agility trainer does not like channels, saying dogs would not see weave poles set up like that in a trial.  So why, then, she used guide wires is a mystery to me; they wouldn't see them either.  I am not impressed by the wire.  Dogs were bumping into them and becoming frightened and distracted, especially the poor GR who tried to hop over, got tangled and then dragged a whole 6 pole set of weaves around.  On our third training session she had dispensed with them and the only two of us in the class who opted to continue training did much better, I thought.

It never occurred to me to look at Google Videos.  I've never even noticed it but will go take a look.  We are having a lovely rainy Saturday, just the perfect thing to keep me busy inside.  Thanks all.

Look for 'Jives' - that is the whole sequence - she seems really good - I think you can see the time and work that goes into this sort of training.  As for putting wires along - that is potentially really dangerous.  Your trainer can't be very experienced. 

There is some information on the wire guides here.  They are pretty common and I must say, the smaller dogs seemed to do all right on them.  I found the Jive videos and many others, thanks.

I've used 2x2, channel etc

To be honest it doesn't make a diffrence what method you use, it's more how you evolve it so the dogs working independently.

I've used channel weaves for my dogs and its worked well.I used clematis netting to begin with in place of guide wires then cut in in half when the dog got confident then finally plastic guide wires,then when the dog is weaving confidently I started taking them off but different ones each time until only the first and last remain,then eventually take them off completely.
I haven't used the 2x2 weaves but from what I have heard they lead to greater understanding of weaving and more independence but aren't so motivational for some dogs(compared to channel weaves where the dog is running through at speed to a thrown toy/titbit pot or Manners Minder.)

I'm currently being taught this with my 8 month old at the moment. I'm not completely sure of the full method, but at the moment molly is going into the entry (we are only doing 2 poles at the moment because of her age) from all sorts of angles with me on the other side of the garden. It certainly gives very consistent entries. Its just a case of clicker training the entry and moving back and sideways step by step, its so simple.

The brilliant thing about the 2x2 weaves is that it teaches the dog to hit the correct entry every time, and from all angles, before you move on to more poles. With channel weaves, and really any other method of training, if the dog makes a mistake anywhere along the weave pole line, how do you communicate to them where the mistake was? If you take the time to watch the whole video I think you will see that her method IS truly brilliant. I'm definitely a fan!!!