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By mahonc
Date 18.06.09 14:56 UTC

Hi, not sure why i was looking i think because i was shocked at the price of them.....what you ask?
labradoodles!!!
what are the f1 f2 indications all about?
most expensive one in the 3 pages i browsed was
950 why oh why? just look in the rescues surely??
F2 and f2 refer to the genetics. I think i'm right in saying an f1 is a first cross - full labrador crossed with a full poodle. F2 means that they are 2nd generation and are 2 labradoodles crossed together.
I persoanlly think they are asking silly money for a cross breed and am fed up with someone breeding crosses just for silly names. THe latest one at work was a bullador - english bulldog cross labrador. WHY?!
Our Mason is a (rescued) lab x collie (ish lol)
a Lollie :) silly and free :)
By mahonc
Date 18.06.09 15:33 UTC

thanks for explaining that.
i agree however untill silly people stop buying these and not just buying them but giving ridiculous money more and more ridiculous crosses will keep happening
By mahonc
Date 18.06.09 15:35 UTC
> Our Mason is a (rescued) lab x collie (ish lol)
> a Lollie :-) silly and free :-)
that i have no issue with, a genuine rescue that is free but to pay silly money and promote unethical breeding is ridiculous

i was once asked by some boy if id allow him to breed his blue staff with my white English bull terrier bitch as he wanted to try and create a blue English, :-o, Over my DEAD Body i clearly told him,
By gembo
Date 18.06.09 16:13 UTC

I was under the impression that the labradoodle was originally bred to be used a guide/assistance dogs for people who have allergies? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but if that was the genuine reason this x breed was started I think it's a good thing.
By triona
Date 18.06.09 16:17 UTC
Edited 18.06.09 16:21 UTC
There is a Bullmastidore litter in my town at the moment, what shocks me the most is that they claim that this cross will erradicate health problems??????? Dont think so both Bullmastiffs and Labradors can have bad hips so its a high chance that these dogs are going to have HD, thats not including anyother problems that can come with the cross.
Dont get me wrong im not against cross breeds at all, but............. advitising to people that they dont have any health problems is soooo wrong. Only very silly people are going to pay 900 odd pounds.
By mahonc
Date 18.06.09 16:20 UTC
> I was under the impression that the labradoodle was originally bred to be used a guide/assistance dogs for people who have allergies? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but if that was the genuine reason this x breed was started I think it's a good thing. <IMG class=qButton title="Quote selected text" alt="Quote selected text" src="/images/mi_quote.gif">
no your right it was intended for that but there has never been a gaurantee over the allergy free coat issue.
i think somebody not long ago on here said only a few were ever used for that reason
> I was under the impression that the labradoodle was originally bred to be used a guide/assistance dogs for people who have allergies?
They were in Australia, but because of the mix they produced they stopped using this cross, as did the GDBA in the UK, they do shed & lack any sort of breed type. The GBDA have started doing the first cross again(as seen on Crufts 2006 when Peter P said the KC were recognizing the "breed" & Ben Fogle's dad stated they were the way forward to create healthier dogs !!!!)
The GDBA also do Lab X Goldens-we have a reject that comes to our training club & his name should be "Bouncer", it's no wonder he failed despite being by their top Lab stud dog !!!!
> was under the impression that the labradoodle was originally bred to be used a guide/assistance dogs for people who have allergies?
it was but it didn't work so the australians stopped.

Hey that's cheap heard some of them going for around £1,600.00 although I think lately they've had to put the price down as they're not selling.
Fools and their money is all that I can say.
> £1,600.00
By JeanSW
Date 18.06.09 22:19 UTC
> THe latest one at work was a bullador - english bulldog cross labrador. WHY?!
It's the potential names that worry me.
Ever thought what they would call a Bulldog crossed with a Shih Tzu ?? :-o
a friend of mine has Boston Terriers and they are often crossed with pugs and other strange combinations. What I don't understand is why, as these crosses seem to sell for a lot LESS than a purebred Boston. I can understand that some unscrupulous people see the labradoodles etc crosses as an easy way to make money but why go to the trouble of breeding at all and then make less money than for a pure bred dog?

When I was considering having another dog,two years after our two died,I was offered a Jackdoodle.He was a mini poodle x jrt.He looked absolutely adorable,shiny black and curly.Small and cuddly.I wasn't ready though,emotionally.A lot was made of the low allergy,low shedding thing,so people started to buy.Now there seem to be any number of poodle crosses.

Unfortunately it is a trend that will no doubt continue for many years yet. Jackadoodles are the big ones right now - apparently many JRTs and poodles have been stolen just to produce this cross.
The guide dogs peeps stopped using labradoodles because of behavioural and training issues not just the coat.

I've recently seen Poodle x Cairn for £1700. The pups looked like mongrels of the sort you can find in any rescue.
I just don't understand why anyone would want to buy them.
Labradoodles in my opinion are one of the ugliest dogs.
They just look like overly fat poodles with none of the good traits from either the poodle or the labrador.
By JeanSW
Date 19.06.09 14:51 UTC
> I've recently seen Poodle x Cairn for £1700.
Gobsmacked!!
> Poodle x Cairn for £1700
but whyyyyyyyy???
it is without rhyme or reason.
This is a new one for you, a staff cross Chi = a french bulldog aparantly!!!
> a staff cross Chi = a french bulldog aparantly!!!
how? mexican and english= french? am perplexed...
it states specifically that it was NOT an accident!!

well personally im sick of the crossed breeding thats happening at the moment.ive kept quiet for a long time and i normally keep myself to myself but now youve brought it up i suppose im entitled to get on my high horse and say my bit lol lol.
its so bloomin annoying.why on earth are so many people buying these puppies and thinking that becasue it is crossed with a poodle that it will never moult??its just not true,they will have a puppy coat for a while and then come fall they will moult.and i reckon this is why so many are now in rescue.cos people buy these puppies thinking it wont moult and theyre allergies wont be affected,its so sad.the people breeding the pups should know better surely!!!
only two days ago at my aunts house she asked me about my new pup and said will you be having puppies tam,(asked me to let her cocker spaniel mate my puppy)obviously when older...and when i said no she said why ot have you seen how much money you can make!!!!i was abosloutly furious and my dad had to explain to her shed said the wrong thing to me.are people realy that stupid or is it just plain ignorance???
> the people breeding the pups should know better surely!!!
>
Sadly if the so called 'breeders' knoew better they wouldnt contemplate doing it in the first place.
As a poodle owner (and lover) i too get absolutely furious when beautiful dogs are used to create crossbreeds that are nowhere near as stunning as the originals and many of the offspring end up in rescue due to incompetant money grabbing 'breeders' mating to make money and having no thought of the comebacks of breeding a litter.
Infact, furious doesnt even come close
> Infact, furious doesnt even come close <IMG alt=mad src="/images/mad.gif">
i couldnt agree with you more.furious doesnt cut it does it.
> are people realy that stupid or is it just plain ignorance??? <IMG class=qButton title="Quote selected text" height=10 alt="Quote selected text" src="/images/mi_quote.gif" width=20>
yeah, they really are that stupid sometimes, and others just don't care!
By k92303
Date 19.06.09 20:00 UTC

Madness, £700 plus for a crossbreed? Adverts I've seen say both parents KC Reg, like that makes it all ok then, health checks not mentioned generally and who knows what the pups are going to look like or what characteristics they will inherit.
I'm sure this trend is going to carry on too, I saw a book called "Designer Dogs" in a book shop a few months ago which gave pictures of about 25 different designer dogs and their designer name ie lab x beagle was a Labbe etc.
A crossbreed that really annoyed me today, i wanted to reply to the advert and rant but i didnt and just deleted their account on my friends list. A dogue de bordeaux cross neo bitch with an american bulldog. Pictures of the actual tie, why why why?
Louise
Just been browsing again and a bordeaux breeder who claims she is breeding top quality bordeaux her price £1000 and then on the advert below a cross as requested!?!?! shar pei cross bordeaux for £800!!!. How can you claim to love and strive for the breed yet cross? do you think this could have been a dual sired litter?
Louise
By JeanSW
Date 19.06.09 22:27 UTC
> are people realy that stupid or is it just plain ignorance???
just plain ignorance :-(
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